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From: Gary Peek on 8 Jul 2010 12:47
Muzza wrote:
> You're entitled to your view that news of my benevolent contribution
> is spam then, be it a mis-informed and perverse misperception, or
> otherwise. I'm sorry that my efforts to best serve the embedded
> community seem to offend you so deeply.

Ahem.... Murry, the web site you pointed us to is commercial. That
is OK, but it does not really fit the definition of "contribution".

You know, when you started this thread, I said to myself, "His name
sounds familiar, I guess he has contributed to the microcontroller
community quite a bit in the past."

I suggest you continue to do this, and to not try to turn it into
a commercial endeavor.

You must also consider that what you offer may not be worth what you
are asking people to pay for it. What you offer may be much better
as a true "contribution". Sorry, but that means free. A lot of people
offer a lot of things free, some better than others, but free.

If this endeavor is really costing you a lot of time and money that
you cannot afford, I would opine that perhaps the time has come that
you cannot contribute. We would like to thank you for what you have
done in the past, and suggest that you find something you like to do.

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From: Muzza on 9 Jul 2010 09:33
On Jul 9, 12:47 am, Gary Peek <mylastn...(a)mycompanyname.com> wrote:
> Muzza wrote:
> > You're entitled to your view that news of my benevolent contribution
> > is spam then, be it a mis-informed and perverse misperception, or
> > otherwise. I'm sorry that my efforts to best serve the embedded
> > community seem to offend you so deeply.
>
> Ahem.... Murry, the web site you pointed us to is commercial. That
> is OK, but it does not really fit the definition of "contribution".
>
> You know, when you started this thread, I said to myself, "His name
> sounds familiar, I guess he has contributed to the microcontroller
> community quite a bit in the past."
>
> I suggest you continue to do this, and to not try to turn it into
> a commercial endeavor.
>
> You must also consider that what you offer may not be worth what you
> are asking people to pay for it. What you offer may be much better
> as a true "contribution". Sorry, but that means free. A lot of people
> offer a lot of things free, some better than others, but free.
>
> If this endeavor is really costing you a lot of time and money that
> you cannot afford, I would opine that perhaps the time has come that
> you cannot contribute. We would like to thank you for what you have
> done in the past, and suggest that you find something you like to do.
>
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Hi Gary,

I am very happy to receive your post, Gary. I very much value hearing
from one of those that I have, hopefully, previously been able to
assist, or who has a grateful appreciation for my humble efforts to
date.

Yes, for the most part I thoroughly enjoyed coding and distributing
8051 based software from my homepage, for the 5 or so years until
comparatively recently. It brought me very welcome contacts with a
great variety of microcontroller enthusiast, and from all over the
globe. Helping code users to solve their embedded-related queries was
a lot of fun, and it continues to be at present.

Unfortunately, I learnt that there is a down side to distributing
one's IP products to all comers. I won't go into too much detail about
the wretched things I discovered some people doing with my code, but I
will state that they put me off the practice of totally free code
distribution for good. That was it, the ungrateful sods wrecked it for
everyone!

After having to have a serious think about whom I might like to be
coding for, and about how I might best restrict code distribution to
that sector alone, I decided to adopt the 'token' contribution,
software distribution policy. It works for me, as I now have more time
to assist the code users that matter to me. Unfortunately, the code-
downloading sector that I now specifically avoid has not taken my
decision well. Tell me if I am wrong! Some users will see half the gas
station price of a can of Coke as a good investment, if it places them
40-engineering-hours closer to a product release. Save as matter to
upload to an illegal distribution site in exchange for download
credit, others have no real use for the code anyway. These people are
the ones that will see any price as 'unaffordable', and are very
welcome to seek resources elsewhere.

I'm still coding for free, Gary. I'm still giving away oodles of free
software, though now only to those with a reciprocal offering, and
along with the new lucky dip download bonus. It's okay that you feel
less inclined to make use of my website, now that it requires some
commitment oneself, Gary. Please don't write it off altogether though,
as you may feel differently about some of the planned, forthcoming
additions one day.

Thanks again for a very welcome post, Gary. I enjoyed hearing from you
very much.

Regards,
Murray R. Van Luyn.




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