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From: Immortalist on 31 Aug 2007 23:02
An action ought to be done in a situation if and only if [1] Doing the
action, (a) treats as mere means as few people as possible in the
situation, and (b) treats as ends as many people as is consistent with
(a), and [2] Doing the action is prescribed by any utilitarian rule
that (a) does not violate condition (1) in the situation, and (b) is
not overridden by another utilitarian rule that does not violate
condition (1) in the situation.

Philosophical Problems and Arguments: An Introduction
by James W. Cornman, Keith Lehrer, George Sotiros Pappas
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0872201244/

From: Michael Gordge on 1 Sep 2007 03:18
On Sep 1, 1:40 pm, extro...(a)hotmail.com wrote:

> "judging
> a book by its cover," didn't your papa ever teach you about that kind
> of thing?

The title of the book was an invention, and so obviously are the ideas
in it, didn't your poppa teach you HOW to think?

MG

From: ZerkonX on 1 Sep 2007 10:01
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:02:37 -0700, Immortalist wrote:

> An action ought to be done in a situation if and only if
[1] Doing the action,
(a) treats as mere means as few people as possible in the
> situation, and
(b) treats as ends as many people as is consistent with (a), and

[2] Doing the action is prescribed by any utilitarian rule that
(a) does not violate condition (1) in the situation, and
(b) is not overridden by another utilitarian rule that does not
violate condition (1) in the situation.

humm, better?

There seems to be a additional condition needed... when the means are as
utilitarian as the end. When the process to the end is as equally
important as the end itself.


From: pico on 1 Sep 2007 11:13
ZerkonX wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:02:37 -0700, Immortalist wrote:
>
>> An action ought to be done in a situation if and only if
> [1] Doing the action,
> (a) treats as mere means as few people as possible in the
>> situation, and
> (b) treats as ends as many people as is consistent with (a), and
>
> [2] Doing the action is prescribed by any utilitarian rule that
> (a) does not violate condition (1) in the situation, and
> (b) is not overridden by another utilitarian rule that does not
> violate condition (1) in the situation.
>
> humm, better?

Way too convoluted. Simple is good.

> There seems to be a additional condition needed... when the means are as
> utilitarian as the end. When the process to the end is as equally
> important as the end itself.
>
>
From: LauLuna on 4 Sep 2007 14:23
On Sep 1, 5:02 am, Immortalist <reanimater_2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> An action ought to be done in a situation if and only if [1] Doing the
> action, (a) treats as mere means as few people as possible in the
> situation, and (b) treats as ends as many people as is consistent with
> (a), and [2] Doing the action is prescribed by any utilitarian rule
> that (a) does not violate condition (1) in the situation, and (b) is
> not overridden by another utilitarian rule that does not violate
> condition (1) in the situation.
>
> Philosophical Problems and Arguments: An Introduction
> by James W. Cornman, Keith Lehrer, George Sotiros Pappashttp://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0872201244/

It seems the principle implies that it is not the case that whoever is
not treated as a mere means is treated as an end; otherwise, [1] (b)
were redundant.

So, let me ask what is inbetween.

Regards


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