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From: bart on 7 May 2008 13:52
Lattice is holding a webcast today, Wednesday, May 7th, on our latest
version of our FPGA software design tools "ispLEVER 7.1 FPGA Design
Tool Technical Rollout." The presenter will be Troy Scott, from our
software marketing group.

If you're interested, the event takes place live at 11am Pacific,
18:00 GMT. In addition, you will be able to view this webcast archive
on-demand, at your convenience, starting a few hours after the live
event takes place.

You can register by clicking:
http://www.latticesemi.com/corporate/webcasts/isplever7.1fpgadesigntool.cfm

Bart Borosky, Lattice
From: John Larkin on 7 May 2008 14:11
On Wed, 7 May 2008 10:52:01 -0700 (PDT), bart
<bart.borosky(a)latticesemi.com> wrote:

>Lattice is holding a webcast today, Wednesday, May 7th, on our latest
>version of our FPGA software design tools "ispLEVER 7.1 FPGA Design
>Tool Technical Rollout." The presenter will be Troy Scott, from our
>software marketing group.
>
>If you're interested, the event takes place live at 11am Pacific,
>18:00 GMT. In addition, you will be able to view this webcast archive
>on-demand, at your convenience, starting a few hours after the live
>event takes place.
>
>You can register by clicking:
>http://www.latticesemi.com/corporate/webcasts/isplever7.1fpgadesigntool.cfm
>
>Bart Borosky, Lattice



To Lattice:

We dumped Lattice over buggy compilers and dinky performance. Now that
you're spamming our group, I'll make the ban permanent.


To the group:

Whenever anybody spams us, please

1. Blackball them as a vendor

2. Say bad things about their companies and products, preferably with
lots of google-searchable keywords.

John

From: John_H on 7 May 2008 15:19
John Larkin wrote:
>
> To Lattice:
>
> We dumped Lattice over buggy compilers and dinky performance. Now that
> you're spamming our group, I'll make the ban permanent.
>
>
> To the group:
>
> Whenever anybody spams us, please
>
> 1. Blackball them as a vendor
>
> 2. Say bad things about their companies and products, preferably with
> lots of google-searchable keywords.
>
> John

Was this really necessary?

If there were technical webcasts from any of the big vendors, I'd like
to know about them though preferably more than 8 minutes beforehand.
If the posts of this nature got to be more than a couple a month from
any one source I'd agree with the spam catagorization but it isn't
that frequent.

I'm disappointed that you had problems with them in the past and won't
trust them for future designs because of your history; competition is
almost always good. But is it reason to be publicly vocal?

Kill-lists are easy to manage if bart's messages offend you.

- John_H
From: Jim Granville on 7 May 2008 15:37
John Larkin wrote:

> On Wed, 7 May 2008 10:52:01 -0700 (PDT), bart
> <bart.borosky(a)latticesemi.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Lattice is holding a webcast today, Wednesday, May 7th, on our latest
>>version of our FPGA software design tools "ispLEVER 7.1 FPGA Design
>>Tool Technical Rollout." The presenter will be Troy Scott, from our
>>software marketing group.
>>
>>If you're interested, the event takes place live at 11am Pacific,
>>18:00 GMT. In addition, you will be able to view this webcast archive
>>on-demand, at your convenience, starting a few hours after the live
>>event takes place.
>>
>>You can register by clicking:
>>http://www.latticesemi.com/corporate/webcasts/isplever7.1fpgadesigntool.cfm
>>
>>Bart Borosky, Lattice
>
>
>
>
> To Lattice:
>
> We dumped Lattice over buggy compilers and dinky performance. Now that
> you're spamming our group, I'll make the ban permanent.

General Comment:
I've not found complex Sw yet that does not have some bugs/blindspots.
I've also improved (pretty much) all the engineering SW I use, by
giving usable errata reports to the supplier(s).

'dinky' I have no idea about, does not sound like an engineering term ?

Do all your design decisions have the same carefull reasoning basis ?

What Bart could do is include a link to the Tools Revision History,
so potential (and past) users can see what has been changed.

-jg



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