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From: Kenneth Tilton on 30 May 2010 13:49 qooxdoo + Common Lisp (+ Cells, a common lisp dataflow hack): http://wiki.github.com/kennytilton/qooxlisp/ Just a proof of concept so far, but includes a substantial starter example: http://github.com/downloads/kennytilton/qooxlisp/apropos-kt.jpg Discussion of the Lisp advantage here: http://wiki.github.com/kennytilton/qooxlisp/the-lisp-in-qooxlisp Discussion of the Cells advantage is being written next and will appear here: http://wiki.github.com/kennytilton/qooxlisp/the-cells-insidetm-qooxlisp kt -- http://www.stuckonalgebra.com "The best Algebra tutorial program I have seen... in a class by itself." Macworld
From: David Mark on 30 May 2010 14:00 On May 30, 1:49 pm, Kenneth Tilton <kentil...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > qooxdoo + Common Lisp (+ Cells, a common lisp dataflow hack): > http://wiki.github.com/kennytilton/qooxlisp/ Qooxdoo + anything < 0; // true
From: Roby Sadeli on 30 May 2010 14:18 On May 31, 12:49 am, Kenneth Tilton <kentil...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > qooxdoo + Common Lisp (+ Cells, a common lisp dataflow hack): > http://wiki.github.com/kennytilton/qooxlisp/ > > Just a proof of concept so far, but includes a substantial starter example: > http://github.com/downloads/kennytilton/qooxlisp/apropos-kt.jpg > > Discussion of the Lisp advantage here: > http://wiki.github.com/kennytilton/qooxlisp/the-lisp-in-qooxlisp > > Discussion of the Cells advantage is being written next and will appear > here: > http://wiki.github.com/kennytilton/qooxlisp/the-cells-insidetm-qooxlisp > > kt > > --http://www.stuckonalgebra.com > "The best Algebra tutorial program I have seen... in a class by itself." > Macworld Really cool stuff Mr. Tilton! I have been reading your blog and noticed your interest in qooxdoo + lisp. I really hope your interest in qooxlisp doesn't wane anytime soon since I really want to see a complete framework that people can use. (+ great docs :) ) Btw, my Lisp knowledge is minimal and I have just learned how to use cl-weblocks.
From: Kenneth Tilton on 30 May 2010 15:35 David Mark wrote: > On May 30, 1:49 pm, Kenneth Tilton <kentil...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> qooxdoo + Common Lisp (+ Cells, a common lisp dataflow hack): >> http://wiki.github.com/kennytilton/qooxlisp/ > > Qooxdoo + anything < 0; // true Dave! Whassup?! I considered building a framework atop your stuff to make for much lighter initial loads but needed a quick win. (and qooxdoo rocks for RIAs). Maybe for my next effort, if you 'll do an LGPL license for it. kt -- http://www.stuckonalgebra.com "The best Algebra tutorial program I have seen... in a class by itself." Macworld
From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn on 31 May 2010 13:46
Kenneth Tilton wrote: > David Mark wrote: >> On May 30, 11:06 pm, Kenny <kentil...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> I think it was a breakdown in parallel universes. In mine qooxdoo works >>> brilliantly. >> >> Based on what evidence? I'm guessing you tried it in a handful of >> browsers you had handy and figured if it appeared to work in those, it >> must be "brilliant". Did it ever occur to you that the authors of >> qooxdoo tried the same browsers before you and inserted lots of hacks >> and sniffs to make them appear to work? What do you think will happen >> in anything older, newer or unknown to the authors? > > I'll lose 0.01% of my market for a week until the ten full-time > engineers paid to work on qooxdoo patch it? ,-[qooxdoo-1.1-sdk/framework/source/class/qx/Bootstrap.js:554] | | getClass : function(value) | { | var classString = Object.prototype.toString.call(value); | return ( | qx.Bootstrap.__classToTypeMap[classString] || | classString.slice(8, -1) | ); | }, ,-[ibid.:554] | | isString : function(value) | { | // Added "value !== null" because IE throws an exception "Object | // expected" | // by executing "value instanceof Array" if value is a DOM element that | // doesn't exist. It seems that there is a internal different between a | // JavaScript null and a null returned from calling DOM. | // e.q. by document.getElementById("ReturnedNull"). | return ( | value !== null && ( | typeof value === "string" || | qx.Bootstrap.getClass(value) == "String" || | value instanceof String || | (!!value && !!value.$$isString)) | ); | }, This alone proves that qooxdoo is junk as its authors are completely clueless. Get over it. PointedEars -- Prototype.js was written by people who don't know javascript for people who don't know javascript. People who don't know javascript are not the best source of advice on designing systems that use javascript. -- Richard Cornford, cljs, <f806at$ail$1$8300dec7(a)news.demon.co.uk> |