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From: mbjj on 30 Aug 2005 10:36
I have a little 10G harddrive with Win 2K on it. I only use it for games
and any WAV conversion to MP3 work that I need to do. Other than that I'm
in 9.3 99% of the time. I was playing around with a KFLD live CD and
happened upon the wine program and it got me to thinking about wacking the
Win2K hard drive even more and going into a dual boot setup to see if wine
will give me access to the windows software on that drive. My question is,
before I wipe it clean and set it up with a dual boot, has wine progressed
enough that it will allow me access to the windows files so that I can run
them in 9.3? I currently have 3 hard drives dedicated to various flavors of
OS and use a hard drive selector to pick between the 3. If wine will let me
do what I want it to do then I have no need to waste a whole drive and have
it totally dedicated to Bill and his henchmen.
From: Daniel Meszaros on 30 Aug 2005 11:13
mbjj schrieb:
> My question is,
> before I wipe it clean and set it up with a dual boot, has wine progressed
> enough that it will allow me access to the windows files so that I can run
> them in 9.3?

It depends on what you attempt to do.


> If wine will let me
> do what I want it to do then I have no need to waste a whole drive and have
> it totally dedicated to Bill and his henchmen.

To be sure that even the actual games work well you could join some kind
of gamers' network around the wine project. They work hard to get all
the new stuff working. I don't know what's the name of this network.
Google should help you in this case.

For office stuff there is a commercial branch of wine called Crossover
Office. You will have to pay for it but in this case you'll get the best
support for all the new software titles.

If you are willing to work yourselves a bit for it you can also get the
information from several web sites that deliver information how to get
this or that program working. But it's your time. Therefore you save the
money. ;-)

I'd suggest you to check if your games work. And if they do - then
change. MP3 conversion on a Linux system is at least as possible as
under Windows.


Ciao,
Mýszi.

PS: I would also change fully if I hadn't spent that much in my
Windows-based music soft- and hardware which is unfortunately not
available under Linux. :-(

PPS: Hope you could understand me right. Just learnt English at school
.... ten years ago. ;-)
From: Chris Cox on 30 Aug 2005 13:16
mbjj wrote:
> I have a little 10G harddrive with Win 2K on it. I only use it for games
> and any WAV conversion to MP3 work that I need to do. Other than that I'm
> in 9.3 99% of the time. I was playing around with a KFLD live CD and
> happened upon the wine program and it got me to thinking about wacking the
> Win2K hard drive even more and going into a dual boot setup to see if wine
> will give me access to the windows software on that drive. My question is,
> before I wipe it clean and set it up with a dual boot, has wine progressed
> enough that it will allow me access to the windows files so that I can run
> them in 9.3? I currently have 3 hard drives dedicated to various flavors of
> OS and use a hard drive selector to pick between the 3. If wine will let me
> do what I want it to do then I have no need to waste a whole drive and have
> it totally dedicated to Bill and his henchmen.

WINE is not a direct way to gain read/write access to NTFS.

Also, wine only runs a very limited subset of software. Actually the
list is huge with regards to what it runs... but odds are it won't
run what "you" want to run :-) The games in particular might
have problems. 2D games can work quite well.. almost anything that
is DirectX 7 or earlier will probably do ok. DirectX 8 and beyond
is where things usually start breaking down rapidly with regards
to what wine (and all of its variants, including Cedega) can do.

SUSE 9.3 with packages from packman (possibly also with the Novell
supplied optional multimedia packs) can do the wav to mp3 for you
without problem.

Wine is stlll very, very, very much Alpha (with no signs of
becoming production anytime soon... could be many, many years).

So... if you have a list of things in particular that you want
to know work with wine (and/or its variants)... that helps.
If you are looking for something that will run most anything
that you throw at it... no... wine isn't there yet.


From: mbjj on 30 Aug 2005 19:24
Chris Cox wrote:

> mbjj wrote:
>> I have a little 10G harddrive with Win 2K on it. I only use it for games
>> and any WAV conversion to MP3 work that I need to do. Other than that
>> I'm in 9.3 99% of the time. I was playing around with a KFLD live CD and
>> happened upon the wine program and it got me to thinking about wacking
>> the Win2K hard drive even more and going into a dual boot setup to see if
>> wine will give me access to the windows software on that drive. My
>> question is, before I wipe it clean and set it up with a dual boot, has
>> wine progressed enough that it will allow me access to the windows files
>> so that I can run them in 9.3? I currently have 3 hard drives dedicated
>> to various flavors of OS and use a hard drive selector to pick between
>> the 3. If wine will let me do what I want it to do then I have no need to
>> waste a whole drive and have it totally dedicated to Bill and his
>> henchmen.
>
> WINE is not a direct way to gain read/write access to NTFS.
>
> Also, wine only runs a very limited subset of software. Actually the
> list is huge with regards to what it runs... but odds are it won't
> run what "you" want to run :-) The games in particular might
> have problems. 2D games can work quite well.. almost anything that
> is DirectX 7 or earlier will probably do ok. DirectX 8 and beyond
> is where things usually start breaking down rapidly with regards
> to what wine (and all of its variants, including Cedega) can do.
>
> SUSE 9.3 with packages from packman (possibly also with the Novell
> supplied optional multimedia packs) can do the wav to mp3 for you
> without problem.
>
> Wine is stlll very, very, very much Alpha (with no signs of
> becoming production anytime soon... could be many, many years).
>
> So... if you have a list of things in particular that you want
> to know work with wine (and/or its variants)... that helps.
> If you are looking for something that will run most anything
> that you throw at it... no... wine isn't there yet.

So, if my filesystem is FAT32, which it is, chances are WINE will access the
few programs I have loaded? I'm not a big gameer. I have 2 games in there.
Pirates and Links '99. I'm more curious than anything to see if it can see
and access these programs. Nothing that I have in windows is current. It's
only used as a storage area when I have to transpose files from work. It
does nothing constructive so I may sacrifice it for experimental reasons.
It needs wacked and reloaded anyway because it didn't take my recent
upgrade to another motherboard and processor very well. Where SuSE just
went with the flow, BG and his boys spazzed out and as a result I lost some
data, file structures and DLL files in the process.
From: Bob Bob on 30 Aug 2005 20:08
Along with others comments

I went a long way to getting my wine setup under 9.1 working "well"
through the use of winetools. This helps you setup the config file as
well as going out and downloading fonts, DCOM, IE etc etc. Keep in mind
that the version of winetools has to line up with the version of wine.
ie the latest versions of wine arent supported by wineteools etc

From memory SuSE specific wine packages are available from
http://www.winehq.org. Winetools is available from
http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools

Dont access pgms on your Windows partition. You shd install pgms under
wine itself and they end up in a structure under /home/<user>/.wine. I
removed the original structure in .wine supplied with the original SuSE
distro. Of course you can copy files as needed from the windows to wine
areas. I had to do this for a few dll's.

Apologies for being slightly OT from your post

Cheers Bob

mbjj wrote:
>
> I have a little 10G harddrive with Win 2K on it.
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