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From: harryguy082589 on 17 Feb 2005 13:30
Ok, i know about 2 minutes ago i posted saying my desktop doesin't see
my tablet on the workgroup and my tablet doesn't see itself, but now
both the computer and the tablet see the tablet. The tablet can acess
itself, but the desktop still can't

harryguy082...(a)gmail.com wrote:
> Thanx for the suggestion, i looked and saw that although the
> administrator account was not on the list of computers denied access
> from the network the guest account was, i took it off. Nonetheless
> there still seems to be something wrong on a different level: Neither
> the tablet nor the desktop acknowledge that the tablet exists on the
> network, the tablet can see and access the desktop, but when i view
the
> whole network it doesn't see itself.
>
> thanks a million,
>
> Dan
>
> p.s.
>
> I tried mapping a network drive and accessing a file on my desktop
from
> my tablet and both of those things worked/.
>
>
> Chuck wrote:
> > On 15 Feb 2005 13:28:40 -0800, harryguy082589(a)gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > >Any suggestions?
> > >
> > >
> > >harryguy082589(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > >> I looked at the reg key you mentioned, its set to 0 on both
comps
> and
> > >> just to make sure everything was write I ran BROWSTAT again,
this
> > >time
> > >> I got an error. Here is the out put from them
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Tablet:
> > >>
> > >> Status for domain IRWIN on transport
> > >> \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{2B704A59-F8A7-4686-AAC8-C0235B499502}
> > >> Browsing is NOT active on domain.
> > >> Master browser name is held by: DAN_BASEMENT
> > >> Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to
> determine
> > >> build of browser master: 5
> > >> \\DAN_BASEMENT . Version:05.01 Flags: 51003 NT POTENTIAL
> > >MASTER
> > >>
> > >> Status for domain IRWIN on transport
> > >> \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{4D2C6DD7-2CAE-4269-81F5-EFFF394E240C}
> > >> Browsing is NOT active on domain.
> > >> Master browser name is held by: DAN_BASEMENT
> > >> Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to
> determine
> > >> build of browser master: 5
> > >> \\DAN_BASEMENT . Version:05.01 Flags: 51003 NT POTENTIAL
> > >MASTER
> > >>
> > >> --------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Desktop:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Status for domain IRWIN on transport
> > >> \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BF1CE17D-469D-4161-9B59-38E9D6DA856E}
> > >> Browsing is active on domain.
> > >> Master browser name is: DAN_BASEMENT
> > >> Master browser is running build 2600
> > >> 1 backup servers retrieved from master DAN_BASEMENT
> > >> \\DAN_BASEMENT
> > >> There are 2 servers in domain IRWIN on transport
> > >> \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BF1CE17D-469D-4161-9B59-38E9D6DA856E}
> > >> There are 3 domains in domain IRWIN on transport
> > >> \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BF1CE17D-469D-4161-9B59-38E9D6DA856E}
> > >>
> > >> ************************************************************
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Now here is the ipconfig info on them:
> > >>
> > >> Desktop:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Windows IP Configuration
> > >>
> > >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dan_basement
> > >> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> > >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> > >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > >>
> > >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> > >>
> > >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme
> > >Gigabit
> > >> Ethernet
> > >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-E0-81-2D-A2-D3
> > >> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> > >> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.6
> > >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> > >> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> > >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> > >> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, February 13,
> 2005
> > >> 8:44:34 AM
> > >> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, February 14,
> 2005
> > >> 8:44:34 AM
> > >>
> > >> -----------------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Tablet:
> > >>
> > >> Windows IP Configuration
> > >>
> > >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dan_tablet
> > >> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> > >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> > >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > >>
> > >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> > >>
> > >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE
> > >Network
> > >> Connection
> > >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-E0-B8-6D-23-5E
> > >> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> > >> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.7
> > >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> > >> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> > >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> > >> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, February 13,
> 2005
> > >> 10:40:52 AM
> > >> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, February 14,
> 2005
> > >> 10:40:52 AM
> > >>
> > >> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
> > >>
> > >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WLAN a+b+g mini-PCI
> > >Module
> > >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-6B-30-03-65
> > >> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> > >> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.4
> > >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> > >> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> > >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> > >> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, February 13,
> 2005
> > >> 10:41:03 AM
> > >> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, February 14,
> 2005
> > >> 10:41:03 AM
> > >>
> > >> ************************************************************
> > >> p.s
> > >>
> > >> I noticed that with the browser service off on my desktop
computer
> it
> > >> can't even see the network, but with it on it can see the
tablet,
> but
> > >> not accesses it ( get an error when try to click on it). With my
> > >tablet
> > >> with no mater if the browser service is on or off I cant see the
> > >whole
> > >> network, but if I type //dan_basement it will still access my
> > >desktop.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks again,
> > >>
> > >> Dan
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > Can you actually map a share as \\dan_basement\nameofshare, and
> access files
> > that way? An error 5 is access denied.
> >
> > If you disabled Simple File Sharing, check the Local Security
> Policies (Control
> > Panel - Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security
> Options, look at
> > "Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set
to
> "Classic -
> > local users authenticate as themselves".
> >
> > If you truly are using an administrative account that is defined on
> both
> > computers with identical non-blank password, check your Local
> Security Policy
> > (Control Panel - Administrative Tools) - User Rights Assignment, on
> the XP Pro
> > computer, and look at "Deny access to this computer from the
> network". Make
> > sure your admin account is not in the list. Look at "Access this
> computer from
> > the network", and make sure that Everyone is in this list.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Chuck
> > Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad
thing.
> > My email is AT DOT
> > actual address pchuck sonic net.

From: Chuck on 17 Feb 2005 15:29
On 17 Feb 2005 10:23:57 -0800, *email_address_deleted* wrote:

>Thanx for the suggestion, i looked and saw that although the
>administrator account was not on the list of computers denied access
>from the network the guest account was, i took it off. Nonetheless
>there still seems to be something wrong on a different level: Neither
>the tablet nor the desktop acknowledge that the tablet exists on the
>network, the tablet can see and access the desktop, but when i view the
>whole network it doesn't see itself.
>
>thanks a million,
>
>Dan
>
>p.s.
>
>I tried mapping a network drive and accessing a file on my desktop from
>my tablet and both of those things worked/.

Dan,

If you're using XP Pro with Advanced File Sharing, and Classic Network Access,
the status of Guest should make absolutely no difference. Did you do the
network drive map / file access tests before or after you tweaked the Guest
account in the deny list?

Rerun browstats and post as updated, let's see if any change.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net
From: harryguy082589 on 18 Feb 2005 17:22
Here is the browstat for my tablet:

Status for domain status on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{4D2C6DD7-2CAE-4269-81F5-EFFF394E240C}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.

And for the heck of it here is the one on my desk:

Status for domain IRWIN on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BF1CE17D-469D-4161-9B59-38E9D6DA856E}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: DAN_BASEMENT
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master DAN_BASEMENT
\\DAN_BASEMENT
There are 2 servers in domain IRWIN on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BF1CE17D-469D-4161-9B59-38E9D6DA856E}
There are 2 domains in domain IRWIN on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BF1CE17D-469D-4161-9B59-38E9D6DA856E}


I don't remember if the mapping of the drive before was before or
after changing the permissions, but it still works now that they have
been changed. How would this matter though? I believe i changed the
permission on the tablet, and the tablet is mapping the drive on
desktop not itself on itself (which it can't do even if I wanted to).
The desktop can't access the tablet now and couldn't before i changed
it either

thanks again,

Dan

Chuck wrote:
> On 17 Feb 2005 10:23:57 -0800, *email_address_deleted* wrote:
>
> >Thanx for the suggestion, i looked and saw that although the
> >administrator account was not on the list of computers denied access
> >from the network the guest account was, i took it off. Nonetheless
> >there still seems to be something wrong on a different level:
Neither
> >the tablet nor the desktop acknowledge that the tablet exists on the
> >network, the tablet can see and access the desktop, but when i view
the
> >whole network it doesn't see itself.
> >
> >thanks a million,
> >
> >Dan
> >
> >p.s.
> >
> >I tried mapping a network drive and accessing a file on my desktop
from
> >my tablet and both of those things worked/.
>
> Dan,
>
> If you're using XP Pro with Advanced File Sharing, and Classic
Network Access,
> the status of Guest should make absolutely no difference. Did you do
the
> network drive map / file access tests before or after you tweaked the
Guest
> account in the deny list?
>
> Rerun browstats and post as updated, let's see if any change.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck
> Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck sonic net

From: Chuck on 18 Feb 2005 19:13
On 18 Feb 2005 14:22:12 -0800, "harryguy082589" <harryguy082589(a)comcast.net>
wrote:

>Here is the browstat for my tablet:
>
>Status for domain status on transport
>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{4D2C6DD7-2CAE-4269-81F5-EFFF394E240C}
> Browsing is NOT active on domain.
> Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.
>
>And for the heck of it here is the one on my desk:
>
>Status for domain IRWIN on transport
>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BF1CE17D-469D-4161-9B59-38E9D6DA856E}
> Browsing is active on domain.
> Master browser name is: DAN_BASEMENT
> Master browser is running build 2600
> 1 backup servers retrieved from master DAN_BASEMENT
> \\DAN_BASEMENT
> There are 2 servers in domain IRWIN on transport
>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BF1CE17D-469D-4161-9B59-38E9D6DA856E}
> There are 2 domains in domain IRWIN on transport
>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BF1CE17D-469D-4161-9B59-38E9D6DA856E}
>
>
>I don't remember if the mapping of the drive before was before or
>after changing the permissions, but it still works now that they have
>been changed. How would this matter though? I believe i changed the
>permission on the tablet, and the tablet is mapping the drive on
>desktop not itself on itself (which it can't do even if I wanted to).
>The desktop can't access the tablet now and couldn't before i changed
>it either
>
>thanks again,
>
>Dan

Dan,

With Windows XP Pro, your server (computer sharing itself) provides network
access based upon the Guest account, or upon a common non-Guest account. If the
computer is running Simple File Sharing, or if it's running Advanced File
Sharing with "Guest only" Network access Local Security Policy, it will always
use Guest authentication.

If your computer is running Advanced File Sharing with "Classic" Network access
Local Security Policy, and if you have a common non-Guest account with identical
non-blank password, your computer will use non-Guest authentication.

If you're using a non-Guest account, that has administrative privilege on the
server, you'll be able to get complete browstat results from any computer that
regards the server as its master browser. If you're using a non-Guest account
without administrative privilege, or if your're using the Guest account, you
won't - you'll see "Could not open key in registry, error = 5".

On 2/15, you posted a pair of browstat logs, one for dan_basement, the other for
dan_tablet. The browstat for dan_basement was predictably complete, and showed
dan_basement to be the master browser. The browstat for dan_tablet showed
dan_basement to be the master browser, but showed the above mentioned error.

I asked you if you had done the network drive map / file access tests before or
after you tweaked the Guest account in the deny list, in an effort to figure out
what has not been done yet. Based upon the browstat logs from 2/15, I am
suspecting that you have not yet established administrative access from
dan_tablet to dan_basement. The question now is whether that is because you are
still using Guest authentication on dan_basement, or whether the non-Guest
account used does not have administrative privilege.

So that is one question. The second, more obvious, is why browstat from
dan_tablet occasionally (as in 2/18) shows "Browsing is NOT active on domain",
yet at other times (as in 2/15) it recognises dan_basement as the master
browser. And when each of these two symptoms are observed variously, do you
actually have file sharing / connectivity between the two computers?

Let's try and define exactly what your symptoms are.

Take the following code (everything inside the "#####"). Please verify computer
names and ip addresses FIRST against "ipconfig /all" from both computers, and
correct if necessary. If you've rebooted either computer, and it has gotten a
different dynamic ip address, this is essential.

Open Notepad. Ensure that Format - Word Wrap is not checked. Highlight then
Copy the code (Ctrl-C), precisely as it is keyed, and Paste (Ctrl-V) into
Notepad.
Save the Notepad file as "cdiag.cmd", as type "All Files", into the root folder
"C:\".
Run it by Start - Run - "c:\cdiag".
Wait patiently.
When Notepad opens up displaying c:\cdiag.txt, first check Format and ensure
that Word Wrap is NOT checked! Then, copy the entire contents (Ctrl-A Ctrl-C)
and paste (Ctrl-V) into your next post. Correct ip addresses if and only if
necessary.

Do this from both computers, please, with all computers powered up and online.

#####

@echo off
set FullTarget1=dan_basement 192.168.1.6
set FullTarget2=dan_tablet 192.168.1.7 192.168.1.4
set FullTarget3=
set FullTarget4=
set FullTargets=%FullTarget1% %FullTarget2% %FullTarget3% %FullTarget4%
set PingTargets=127.0.0.1 192.168.1.1
Set Version=V1.07
@echo CDiagnosis %Version% >c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Start diagnosis for %computername% (Targets %FullTargets%) >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "ping www.yahoo.com" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping www.yahoo.com >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "ping 66.94.230.32" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping 66.94.230.32 >>c:\cdiag.txt
for %%a in (%FullTargets% %PingTargets%) do (
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "net view %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
net view %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
)
@echo End diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt
notepad c:\cdiag.txt
:EOF

#####

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net
From: Chuck on 18 Feb 2005 20:48
On 18 Feb 2005 14:22:12 -0800, "harryguy082589" <harryguy082589(a)comcast.net>
wrote:

>Here is the browstat for my tablet:
>
>Status for domain status on transport
>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{4D2C6DD7-2CAE-4269-81F5-EFFF394E240C}
> Browsing is NOT active on domain.
> Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.
>
>And for the heck of it here is the one on my desk:
>
>Status for domain IRWIN on transport
>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BF1CE17D-469D-4161-9B59-38E9D6DA856E}
> Browsing is active on domain.
> Master browser name is: DAN_BASEMENT
> Master browser is running build 2600
> 1 backup servers retrieved from master DAN_BASEMENT
> \\DAN_BASEMENT
> There are 2 servers in domain IRWIN on transport
>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BF1CE17D-469D-4161-9B59-38E9D6DA856E}
> There are 2 domains in domain IRWIN on transport
>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BF1CE17D-469D-4161-9B59-38E9D6DA856E}
>
>
>I don't remember if the mapping of the drive before was before or
>after changing the permissions, but it still works now that they have
>been changed. How would this matter though? I believe i changed the
>permission on the tablet, and the tablet is mapping the drive on
>desktop not itself on itself (which it can't do even if I wanted to).
>The desktop can't access the tablet now and couldn't before i changed
>it either
>
>thanks again,
>
>Dan

Dan,

With Windows XP Pro, your server (computer sharing itself) provides network
access based upon the Guest account, or upon a common non-Guest account. If the
computer is running Simple File Sharing, or if it's running Advanced File
Sharing with "Guest only" Network access Local Security Policy, it will always
use Guest authentication.

If your computer is running Advanced File Sharing with "Classic" Network access
Local Security Policy, and if you have a common non-Guest account with identical
non-blank password, your computer will use non-Guest authentication.

If you're using a non-Guest account, that has administrative privilege on the
server, you'll be able to get complete browstat results from any computer that
regards the server as its master browser. If you're using a non-Guest account
without administrative privilege, or if your're using the Guest account, you
won't - you'll see "Could not open key in registry, error = 5".

On 2/15, you posted a pair of browstat logs, one for dan_basement, the other for
dan_tablet. The browstat for dan_basement was predictably complete, and showed
dan_basement to be the master browser. The browstat for dan_tablet showed
dan_basement to be the master browser, but showed the above mentioned error.

I asked you if you had done the network drive map / file access tests before or
after you tweaked the Guest account in the deny list, in an effort to figure out
what has not been done yet. Based upon the browstat logs from 2/15, I am
suspecting that you have not yet established administrative access from
dan_tablet to dan_basement. The question now is whether that is because you are
still using Guest authentication on dan_basement, or whether the non-Guest
account used does not have administrative privilege.

So that is one question. The second, more obvious, is why browstat from
dan_tablet occasionally (as in 2/18) shows "Browsing is NOT active on domain",
yet at other times (as in 2/15) it recognises dan_basement as the master
browser. And when each of these two symptoms are observed variously, do you
actually have file sharing / connectivity between the two computers?

Let's try and define exactly what your symptoms are.

Take the following code (everything inside the "#####"). Please verify computer
names and ip addresses FIRST against "ipconfig /all" from both computers, and
correct if necessary. If you've rebooted either computer, and it has gotten a
different dynamic ip address, this is essential.

Open Notepad. Ensure that Format - Word Wrap is not checked. Highlight then
Copy the code (Ctrl-C), precisely as it is keyed, and Paste (Ctrl-V) into
Notepad. Correct ip addresses if and only if necessary.
Save the Notepad file as "cdiag.cmd", as type "All Files", into the root folder
"C:\".
Run it by Start - Run - "c:\cdiag".
Wait patiently.
When Notepad opens up displaying c:\cdiag.txt, first check Format and ensure
that Word Wrap is NOT checked! Then, copy the entire contents (Ctrl-A Ctrl-C)
and paste (Ctrl-V) into your next post.

Do this from both computers, please, with all computers powered up and online.

#####

@echo off
set FullTarget1=dan_basement 192.168.1.6
set FullTarget2=dan_tablet 192.168.1.7 192.168.1.4
set FullTarget3=
set FullTarget4=
set FullTargets=%FullTarget1% %FullTarget2% %FullTarget3% %FullTarget4%
set PingTargets=127.0.0.1 192.168.1.1
Set Version=V1.07
@echo CDiagnosis %Version% >c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Start diagnosis for %computername% (Targets %FullTargets%) >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "ping www.yahoo.com" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping www.yahoo.com >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "ping 66.94.230.32" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping 66.94.230.32 >>c:\cdiag.txt
for %%a in (%FullTargets% %PingTargets%) do (
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo "net view %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
@echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
net view %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
)
@echo End diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt
notepad c:\cdiag.txt
:EOF

#####

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net
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