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From: Dennis on 27 Jan 2008 13:53 How do you reconcile Luke Chapter 3 which gives 76 generations from Adam to Jesus making a maximum of 4000 years, with 'Mitochondrial Eve' living in Africa 150,000 years ago ? Y-chromosome research also puts Adam way back before any conceivable Bible date. Modern man reached Australia 60,000 years ago, after leaving Africa. How do you propose to square the circle, Alistair ?
From: HeyBub on 27 Jan 2008 17:11 Dennis wrote: > How do you reconcile Luke Chapter 3 which gives 76 generations from > Adam to Jesus making a maximum of 4000 years, with 'Mitochondrial Eve' > living in Africa 150,000 years ago ? Y-chromosome research also puts > Adam way back before any conceivable Bible date. Modern man reached > Australia 60,000 years ago, after leaving Africa. How do you propose > to square the circle, Alistair ? How do you square the receipe for pumpkin pie with the instructions for taking cel-phone video pictures? The answer to both questions is: you can't. You can't because the narratives talk about two different things to two different audiences at two different times. Here's a more relevant example: Why do introductory college Physics courses start with Newtonian mechanics when everyone knows that Quantum Mechanics has more "truthiness" and string theory may even be truthier? What do you think would happen if a missionary to a Cargo Cult tribe began his proselytizing with a lecture on mitochondrial DNA? He'd get eaten, that's what! One explains at the hearer's ability to comprehend.
From: Anonymous on 27 Jan 2008 20:43 In article <72551ff7-21ea-48bc-9205-d9f4b6a6a7da(a)p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, Dennis <dgoffin(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >How do you reconcile Luke Chapter 3 which gives 76 generations from >Adam to Jesus making a maximum of 4000 years, with 'Mitochondrial Eve' >living in Africa 150,000 years ago ? The same way that one usually reconciles a religion with a science... or maybe in a slightly different manner. DD
From: Joel C. Ewing on 28 Jan 2008 00:38 docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote: > In article <72551ff7-21ea-48bc-9205-d9f4b6a6a7da(a)p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, > Dennis <dgoffin(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >> How do you reconcile Luke Chapter 3 which gives 76 generations from >> Adam to Jesus making a maximum of 4000 years, with 'Mitochondrial Eve' >> living in Africa 150,000 years ago ? > > The same way that one usually reconciles a religion with a science... or > maybe in a slightly different manner. > > DD For those whose concept of ultimate truth is locked to a specific literal interpretation of the Bible, obviously when God created the universe several thousand years ago, he must have created it with all the "false" evidence that misleads man into thinking the universe is billions of years old. Or did God really create the universe yesterday and just give us fabricated memories, a fabricated environment, and a fabricated history to falsely convince us of a prior existence? Once one allows for the possibility that a capricious, creator God might have fabricated false historical evidence to confuse us, there is no logical reason to assume that anything we think we "know" about the past is above suspicion. While being mindful that history consistently shows that each generation's understanding of physical reality is imperfect, either the world has always been governed by the same physical laws and processes we can observe today and the Bible interpreted in the light of that reality, or all bets are off. To make this post at least marginally on topic, perhaps COBOL didn't exist until yesterday when the universe was created, and Grace Hopper is just one of many false memories to explain why God created all those business COBOL programs as part of creation! -- Joel C. Ewing, Fort Smith, AR jREMOVEcCAPSewing(a)acm.org
From: Anonymous on 28 Jan 2008 05:10
In article <13pqqiih2brk83c(a)corp.supernews.com>, Joel C. Ewing <jcREMOVEewing(a)CAPS.acm.org> wrote: >docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote: >> In article ><72551ff7-21ea-48bc-9205-d9f4b6a6a7da(a)p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, >> Dennis <dgoffin(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >>> How do you reconcile Luke Chapter 3 which gives 76 generations from >>> Adam to Jesus making a maximum of 4000 years, with 'Mitochondrial Eve' >>> living in Africa 150,000 years ago ? >> >> The same way that one usually reconciles a religion with a science... or >> maybe in a slightly different manner. > >For those whose concept of ultimate truth is locked to a specific >literal interpretation of the Bible, obviously when God created the >universe several thousand years ago, he must have created it with all >the "false" evidence that misleads man into thinking the universe is >billions of years old. That might be for someone else to consider, Mr Ewing... but the posting asked 'how do you' and I answered with how I did so. DD |