From: Larry Lindstrom on
Hi Folks:

I'm still not having luck giving my Win7/64's account access to my
XP account's private folders and files on the same dual boot machine.

I hoped giving both boots the same computer name and both accounts
the same name might allow me to get away with it. But that hasn't worked.

When I open the folder's Properties - Security - Add (Group or user
names) I'm asked to select a location. But the only location available
is the active (XP) boot's computer name. Even if I use a different name
for the Win7 boot, how can I add it to this list?

I hope adding the other boot's computer name to the list will be the
first step in allowing me to share these private files.

I'd prefer to have both boots use the same computer name, but it's
OK if I need to use a different name when running Wini7.

Thanks
Larry
From: Tim Meddick on
If you boot into an Administrator-level account in your Win7 OS - you
*should* have complete access to all files / folders on the XP drive /
partition!

However, if not then try the following....

First boot to XP

Then open Explorer at the root of drive [c:]

Right-click on the [c:] drive and choose "Properties" from the menu.

Click on the "Security" tab in "(C:) Properties"

Click on the "Advanced" button.

Locate in the user-list the user named "Everyone" (if there is not an entry
named "Everyone" then create one using the "Add" button).

Give the user "Everyone" Full-Control (i.e. double-click on the "Everyone"
item in the user-list and chackmark the box named "Full Control")

Make sure you change the "Apply onto" box is changed to apply to "This
folder, subfolders and files"

Press [ok] to exit.

It will take a few moments for the permissions to be re-set on the entire
drive.

Re-boot into Win7 and the entire XP drive will be completely accessible to
you.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"Larry Lindstrom" <larryl_turbo(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hufuti$s5i$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> Hi Folks:
>
> I'm still not having luck giving my Win7/64's account access to my XP
> account's private folders and files on the same dual boot machine.
>
> I hoped giving both boots the same computer name and both accounts the
> same name might allow me to get away with it. But that hasn't worked.
>
> When I open the folder's Properties - Security - Add (Group or user
> names) I'm asked to select a location. But the only location available
> is the active (XP) boot's computer name. Even if I use a different name
> for the Win7 boot, how can I add it to this list?
>
> I hope adding the other boot's computer name to the list will be the
> first step in allowing me to share these private files.
>
> I'd prefer to have both boots use the same computer name, but it's OK
> if I need to use a different name when running Wini7.
>
> Thanks
> Larry

From: Larry Lindstrom on
On 6/6/2010 2:55 PM, Tim Meddick wrote:
> If you boot into an Administrator-level account in your Win7 OS - you
> *should* have complete access to all files / folders on the XP drive /
> partition!
>
> However, if not then try the following....
>
> First boot to XP
>
> Then open Explorer at the root of drive [c:]
>
> Right-click on the [c:] drive and choose "Properties" from the menu.
>
> Click on the "Security" tab in "(C:) Properties"
>
> Click on the "Advanced" button.
>
> Locate in the user-list the user named "Everyone" (if there is not an
> entry named "Everyone" then create one using the "Add" button).
>
> Give the user "Everyone" Full-Control (i.e. double-click on the
> "Everyone" item in the user-list and chackmark the box named "Full
> Control")
>
> Make sure you change the "Apply onto" box is changed to apply to "This
> folder, subfolders and files"
>
> Press [ok] to exit.
>
> It will take a few moments for the permissions to be re-set on the
> entire drive.
>
> Re-boot into Win7 and the entire XP drive will be completely accessible
> to you.
>
> ==
>
> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
>
>
>
>
> "Larry Lindstrom" <larryl_turbo(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hufuti$s5i$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> Hi Folks:
>>
>> I'm still not having luck giving my Win7/64's account access to my XP
>> account's private folders and files on the same dual boot machine.
>>
>> I hoped giving both boots the same computer name and both accounts the
>> same name might allow me to get away with it. But that hasn't worked.
>>
>> When I open the folder's Properties - Security - Add (Group or user
>> names) I'm asked to select a location. But the only location available
>> is the active (XP) boot's computer name. Even if I use a different
>> name for the Win7 boot, how can I add it to this list?
>>
>> I hope adding the other boot's computer name to the list will be the
>> first step in allowing me to share these private files.
>>
>> I'd prefer to have both boots use the same computer name, but it's OK
>> if I need to use a different name when running Wini7.

Thanks Tim:

I understand, and I can do that.

But these are private files. I want only my account on XP and my
account on the Win 7/64 boot to have full access to these files.

The computer has the same name and workgroup, and no domain, for
each boot. My account name is the same for each boot.

Under XP the folder's security is set to allow full access to
"larryl" on "DRAGON". But when I re-boot to Win 7 as "larryl" on a
computer named "DRAGON" I'm told I don't have access to those files.

While I'd like to keep both boot's named "DRAGON", I've tried
calling the Win7 boot "DRAGON_64", but attempting to add "DRAGON_64" for
that folder's Properties - Security - Add - Location.

But DRAGON_64 isn't a choice I'm offered.

So, is there some method to allow larryl on a Win7 boot that calls
this computer "DRAGON" to have the full access to larryl's private files
created on the XP boot?

I appreciate your attempt to help me.

Thanks
Larry
From: Tim Meddick on
The fact you gave both OSs the same username / domain is irrelevant.

A username on a NT-based Windows OS, is, in effect, a friendly name.

For instance, My full username is "Tim" but if you look in the registry,
the computer knows me as user :
S-1-5-21-1957994488-1004336348-682003330-1003

....a unique ID!! Stands to reason doesn't it? As if there were no unique
ID assigned to simple user names, then everyone connected to a network who
happened to have the same username would be able to access each other's
files!!!

Is your Win7 account an administrator-level account?

If so, and you still can't gain access to the XP files, then do as I first
suggested, but instead of adding "Everyone" add "Administrators" (that's
Administrators NOT Administrator) to the users granted access from the root
of [c:] drive.

That way, normal users should not be able to gain access to the "private"
files, but as an admin-level user - you would!

By default, all files and folders on an XP drive, should have granted
access to the Administrators group, but if one has "made this folder
private" then I guess that the Administrators group may have been removed
from the granted user-list.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"Larry Lindstrom" <larryl_turbo(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:huhdqp$ap5$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> On 6/6/2010 2:55 PM, Tim Meddick wrote:
>> If you boot into an Administrator-level account in your Win7 OS - you
>> *should* have complete access to all files / folders on the XP drive /
>> partition!
>>
>> However, if not then try the following....
>>
>> First boot to XP
>>
>> Then open Explorer at the root of drive [c:]
>>
>> Right-click on the [c:] drive and choose "Properties" from the menu.
>>
>> Click on the "Security" tab in "(C:) Properties"
>>
>> Click on the "Advanced" button.
>>
>> Locate in the user-list the user named "Everyone" (if there is not an
>> entry named "Everyone" then create one using the "Add" button).
>>
>> Give the user "Everyone" Full-Control (i.e. double-click on the
>> "Everyone" item in the user-list and chackmark the box named "Full
>> Control")
>>
>> Make sure you change the "Apply onto" box is changed to apply to "This
>> folder, subfolders and files"
>>
>> Press [ok] to exit.
>>
>> It will take a few moments for the permissions to be re-set on the
>> entire drive.
>>
>> Re-boot into Win7 and the entire XP drive will be completely accessible
>> to you.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Larry Lindstrom" <larryl_turbo(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hufuti$s5i$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Hi Folks:
>>>
>>> I'm still not having luck giving my Win7/64's account access to my XP
>>> account's private folders and files on the same dual boot machine.
>>>
>>> I hoped giving both boots the same computer name and both accounts the
>>> same name might allow me to get away with it. But that hasn't worked.
>>>
>>> When I open the folder's Properties - Security - Add (Group or user
>>> names) I'm asked to select a location. But the only location available
>>> is the active (XP) boot's computer name. Even if I use a different
>>> name for the Win7 boot, how can I add it to this list?
>>>
>>> I hope adding the other boot's computer name to the list will be the
>>> first step in allowing me to share these private files.
>>>
>>> I'd prefer to have both boots use the same computer name, but it's OK
>>> if I need to use a different name when running Wini7.
>
> Thanks Tim:
>
> I understand, and I can do that.
>
> But these are private files. I want only my account on XP and my
> account on the Win 7/64 boot to have full access to these files.
>
> The computer has the same name and workgroup, and no domain, for each
> boot. My account name is the same for each boot.
>
> Under XP the folder's security is set to allow full access to "larryl"
> on "DRAGON". But when I re-boot to Win 7 as "larryl" on a computer named
> "DRAGON" I'm told I don't have access to those files.
>
> While I'd like to keep both boot's named "DRAGON", I've tried calling
> the Win7 boot "DRAGON_64", but attempting to add "DRAGON_64" for that
> folder's Properties - Security - Add - Location.
>
> But DRAGON_64 isn't a choice I'm offered.
>
> So, is there some method to allow larryl on a Win7 boot that calls
> this computer "DRAGON" to have the full access to larryl's private files
> created on the XP boot?
>
> I appreciate your attempt to help me.
>
> Thanks
> Larry

From: Larry Lindstrom on
On 6/7/2010 11:16 AM, Tim Meddick wrote:
> The fact you gave both OSs the same username / domain is irrelevant.
>
> A username on a NT-based Windows OS, is, in effect, a friendly name.
>
> For instance, My full username is "Tim" but if you look in the registry,
> the computer knows me as user :
> S-1-5-21-1957994488-1004336348-682003330-1003
>
> ...a unique ID!! Stands to reason doesn't it? As if there were no unique
> ID assigned to simple user names, then everyone connected to a network
> who happened to have the same username would be able to access each
> other's files!!!

Thanks again Tim:

That does make sense, which is probably the reason your following
suggestion isn't working. :)

> Is your Win7 account an administrator-level account?

Yes.

> If so, and you still can't gain access to the XP files, then do as I
> first suggested, but instead of adding "Everyone" add "Administrators"
> (that's Administrators NOT Administrator) to the users granted access
> from the root of [c:] drive.

I did, and that doesn't work either. Probably for the same reason
simple user names don't work. I'm guessing the "Administrators" group
on the XP boot has a different SID from "Administrators" on the Win7
boot. Otherwise, it would be setting itself up for the same
vulnerability you describe above. All "Administrators" group users of
that computer would have access to all files of any computer that grant
access to "Administrators".

When setting up file permissions, with <Properties - Security - Add
- From this location - Add>. The only location is "DRAGON". I'm
guessing this identifies a computer. For some reason my other XP, a
MediaCenter PC, "TFA", is not in the list of locations, even though it
is available in Window Explore "My Network Places".

Just curious, how would I get "TFA", the other PC's name, in that
location list.

That's why the subject for this thread is what it is.

Perhaps I misunderstand the purpose of the location list. If I can
get the Win7 Boot computer referenced in the locations list, is that a
first step in granting these permissions?

As stated, I appreciate your assistance.

Thanks
Larry
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