From: Ben Myers on
For years and years and years, I have operated my "custom-built" computers with
the covers off. They run. And run. And run. No ill effects. Dust collects
inside, same as computers with covers on that I service all the time. I remove
most of the dust bunnies now and again. Why do I do this? Makes it easier to
tinker with the innards, which I do frequently... Ben Myers

On Sun, 04 May 2008 08:17:08 -0500, RnR <rnrtexas(a)gmail.com> wrote:

<SNIP>
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>
>Draw your own conclusions but it is on Google that others have
>modified their cases. I have not but I have taken off my case for
>weeks at a time with no "problems" with respect to higher temps or
>anything else for that matter.
From: Tom Scales on


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Myers [mailto:ben_myers_spam_me_not(a)charter.net]
> Posted At: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:52 AM
> Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
> Conversation: Adjust speed of fan
> Subject: Re: Adjust speed of fan
>
> For years and years and years, I have operated my "custom-built"
> computers with
> the covers off. They run. And run. And run. No ill effects.
Dust
> collects
> inside, same as computers with covers on that I service all the time.
> I remove
> most of the dust bunnies now and again. Why do I do this? Makes it
> easier to
> tinker with the innards, which I do frequently... Ben Myers
>
> On Sun, 04 May 2008 08:17:08 -0500, RnR <rnrtexas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
> >
> >
> >Draw your own conclusions but it is on Google that others have
> >modified their cases. I have not but I have taken off my case for
> >weeks at a time with no "problems" with respect to higher temps or
> >anything else for that matter.

I just noticed that the side is off one of my XPS410 'servers'. I
suspect I took it off awhile back when tinkering with something.

It's fine. It will stay fine. I've NEVER had a machine fail from heat
associated to having the cover off.

From: michael adams on

"RnR" <rnrtexas(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:nhdr141bb9ivqotauf09dmho3f6lnbb6j3(a)4ax.com...
>
> Draw your own conclusions but it is on Google that others have
> modified their cases.

In other words some people on Google claim to know better than the
original manufacturers, who'd be bankrupted by returns if they got
their original design calculations wrong. I see.


> I have not but I have taken off my case for
> weeks at a time with no "problems" with respect to higher temps or
> anything else for that matter.

As I just explained -

The purpose of the fans is to disperse the warm air which would otherwise
build up inside the case, thus causing components to overheat - given that
having a rigid case is a necessity both for practical and aesthetic reasons.
Without an enclosure there possibly wouldn't be any warm air getting trapped.

I repeat "inside the case".

Geddit ?



michael adams

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From: RnR on
On Sun, 4 May 2008 15:17:16 +0100, "michael adams"
<mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote:

>
>"RnR" <rnrtexas(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:nhdr141bb9ivqotauf09dmho3f6lnbb6j3(a)4ax.com...
>>
>> Draw your own conclusions but it is on Google that others have
>> modified their cases.
>
>In other words some people on Google claim to know better than the
>original manufacturers, who'd be bankrupted by returns if they got
>their original design calculations wrong. I see.
>
>
>> I have not but I have taken off my case for
>> weeks at a time with no "problems" with respect to higher temps or
>> anything else for that matter.
>
>As I just explained -
>
>The purpose of the fans is to disperse the warm air which would otherwise
>build up inside the case, thus causing components to overheat - given that
>having a rigid case is a necessity both for practical and aesthetic reasons.
>Without an enclosure there possibly wouldn't be any warm air getting trapped.
>
>I repeat "inside the case".
>
>Geddit ?
>
>
>
>michael adams
>


I never heard of a failure due to extra openings and I've been around
pc's for about 20 years and read a lot besides. Further you make a
claim about Dell that I have never read here or on the Dell web site
but I've read news to the contrary on the net by actual owners.

Perhaps I didn't read enough tho :( but I'm willing to read more.
Can you direct me to the Dell web site that backs up your claim(s)?
Otherwise respectfully I'll continue to believe what I've already read
and you may continue to believe as you wish.


From: michael adams on

"RnR" <rnrtexas(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:481s14p18s750dkf29c78nm5cnfu3aakb1(a)4ax.com...
> On Sun, 4 May 2008 15:17:16 +0100, "michael adams"
> <mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> >"RnR" <rnrtexas(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:nhdr141bb9ivqotauf09dmho3f6lnbb6j3(a)4ax.com...
> >>
> >> Draw your own conclusions but it is on Google that others have
> >> modified their cases.
> >
> >In other words some people on Google claim to know better than the
> >original manufacturers, who'd be bankrupted by returns if they got
> >their original design calculations wrong. I see.
> >
> >
> >> I have not but I have taken off my case for
> >> weeks at a time with no "problems" with respect to higher temps or
> >> anything else for that matter.
> >
> >As I just explained -
> >
> >The purpose of the fans is to disperse the warm air which would otherwise
> >build up inside the case, thus causing components to overheat - given that
> >having a rigid case is a necessity both for practical and aesthetic reasons.
> >Without an enclosure there possibly wouldn't be any warm air getting trapped.
> >
> >I repeat "inside the case".
> >
> >Geddit ?
> >
> >
> >
> >michael adams
> >
>
>
> I never heard of a failure due to extra openings and I've been around
> pc's for about 20 years and read a lot besides. Further you make a
> claim about Dell that I have never read here or on the Dell web site
> but I've read news to the contrary on the net by actual owners.
>
> Perhaps I didn't read enough tho :( but I'm willing to read more.
> Can you direct me to the Dell web site that backs up your claim(s)?
> Otherwise respectfully I'll continue to believe what I've already read
> and you may continue to believe as you wish.

You're the person who's claiming that some Dell desktop and tower
case designs may be subject to overheating, unless users make extra
holes in the cases themselves.

However as the number of people who would ever do this will be a tiny
minority it follows that large numbers of machines must have been returned
to Dell as a consequence. Not only would this have dented Dells' profits
considerably, but presumably it would also have featured in the industry
news at the time, and in newsgroups.

So where is the evidence for such returns ? As there often is in the case
of overheating Dell laptops, and laptop components?

I'm saying there's nothing wrong with Dell cases and so they
don't require modification in any way. So I don't need to produce
any evidence at all.

You're the person who's saying that there's a problem if users
of certain Dell machines don't add these extra holes, with the result
that large numbers of Dell desktops and\or towers must have been
returned at some stage. So please produce your evidence.


michael adams

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