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From: FatBoySlimFast on 24 Apr 2008 07:53
Hi guys,

I would love to be able to connect my snake to my mixer via a multipin
connector. The main driver would be to save time setting up for live
gigs.

I have a 16 send / 4 return snake (all XLRs) which I could use. I'm
wondering whether it's sensible to chop the tails off and wire up a
pair of multipin connectors.

Can someone give me advice on whether this is doable, what skills I'd
need (eg. how good would my soldering have to be), what types of
connector I should use, what are the issues / risks etc.

Cheers,
Steve W
From: Gareth Magennis on 24 Apr 2008 08:42

"FatBoySlimFast" <steveNOspamTAveryMUCH(a)sjwhite.plus.com> wrote in message
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> Hi guys,
>
> I would love to be able to connect my snake to my mixer via a multipin
> connector. The main driver would be to save time setting up for live
> gigs.
>
> I have a 16 send / 4 return snake (all XLRs) which I could use. I'm
> wondering whether it's sensible to chop the tails off and wire up a
> pair of multipin connectors.
>
> Can someone give me advice on whether this is doable, what skills I'd
> need (eg. how good would my soldering have to be), what types of
> connector I should use, what are the issues / risks etc.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve W



If you don't know what skills you need then it is very doubtful you have
enough skills to do it. Unless all your solder joints and cable
preparation/sleeving arrangements are pretty much perfect, your snake is
going to be totally unreliable, which in real terms is worse than useless.

Like most things in life, the first time you try something new, you usually
don't do a very good job of it. Reliably wiring a 60 way multipin pair is
just not going to happen your first time around. Really.

And also, these types of connectors are expensive, and many require special
and expensive tooling.

Gareth.


From: mcsteve on 24 Apr 2008 09:30
"FatBoySlimFast" wrote:
> I would love to be able to connect my snake to my mixer via a multipin
> connector. The main driver would be to save time setting up for live
> gigs.
>
> I have a 16 send / 4 return snake (all XLRs) which I could use.
>

The time required to connect a 16x4 snake is maybe two minutes.
Especially if your connecting to the same mixer, every time.
I could understand wanting a mult for a 40 ch snake with a large
return count, but a 16 x 4 is lightning fast to do. The only other
reason for a mult would be to streamline a setup.

If you really feel you need to save those few minutes, then you may
want to consider just buying a short setup with male and female fans
that disconnects with a mult. An advantage is that your long 16 x 4
will still be usable with other rigs.


--
Steve <snip> McQ
From: Tim Perry on 24 Apr 2008 09:30

"FatBoySlimFast" <steveNOspamTAveryMUCH(a)sjwhite.plus.com> wrote in message
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> Hi guys,
>
> I would love to be able to connect my snake to my mixer via a multipin
> connector. The main driver would be to save time setting up for live
> gigs.
>
> I have a 16 send / 4 return snake (all XLRs) which I could use. I'm
> wondering whether it's sensible to chop the tails off and wire up a
> pair of multipin connectors.
>
> Can someone give me advice on whether this is doable, what skills I'd
> need (eg. how good would my soldering have to be), what types of
> connector I should use, what are the issues / risks etc.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve W

I have seen this done once long ago. The band had a custom mixer case that
allowed for transport with the XLRs in place. The connector was permanently
mounted to the case with an "L" bracket. I think I saw something like this
on a rental system a while bank. As I recall, several channels were
intermittent.

Just about my first lesson in in live sound was from a owner/A1 who used a
large snake on a spool that took 2 roadies to move. The stage box and fan
were removable. He spent time before each show with tech spray attempting to
get most of the channels to work. His words of wisdom were: "never buy a big
snake, get 2 smaller ones instead.

Consequently all mine hardwired. To make it easier to set up I bought a set
of numbered connectors and replaced all the XLRs on my largest snake. You
can color code and bundle in groups of 4 with colored electrical tape.


From: William Black on 24 Apr 2008 10:03

"FatBoySlimFast" <steveNOspamTAveryMUCH(a)sjwhite.plus.com> wrote in message
news:1ts0141dc1lvshjht8s4sdagrrt6lq9upc(a)4ax.com...
> Hi guys,
>
> I would love to be able to connect my snake to my mixer via a multipin
> connector. The main driver would be to save time setting up for live
> gigs.
>
> I have a 16 send / 4 return snake (all XLRs) which I could use. I'm
> wondering whether it's sensible to chop the tails off and wire up a
> pair of multipin connectors.
>
> Can someone give me advice on whether this is doable, what skills I'd
> need (eg. how good would my soldering have to be), what types of
> connector I should use, what are the issues / risks etc.

If you need to know what skills you need you're not really ready to do the
job.

Putting a multiway connector together is usually a workshop job, and if you
don't have a workshop and are doing on the kitchen table you really do need
to know what you're doing.

Besides, a 16/4 snake only takes a few minutes to plug up and is reasonably
straightforward to do.

Put colour coded sleeves on it and put coloured dots on the various boxes if
you can't remember what goes where.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.



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