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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 5 May 2008 09:25
On Mon, 5 May 2008 12:00:02 +0100, jim(a)magrathea.plus.com (jim) wrote:

>Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>
>> >I'd probably have a hard time restoring my entire system
>> >from it, so it's far from perfect,
>>
>> Hmmm. I'll have to actually trial that from booting a Leopard disk.
>> There's no reason why it shouldn't work, unless the Leopard DVD
>> doesn't have SMB protocols running, or doesn't give a UI to mount a
>> remote drive.
>
>I'm not sure how you'd get it to show unsupported drives from the boot
>DVD.

Let's have a look... boot off the Leopard disk, and hunt around.

Okay - connect to network goes fine.

No Finder to mount from.
No similar options in Disk Utility.
'mount_smbfs //10.0.0.3/tm /Volumes/tm' errors with "failed to load
the smb library: unknown error: 1102". No google hits for that.

Not at all promising!

So lets pop into Utilities/Restore from backup anyway... "Select a
Backup Source" screen offers a greyed out "connect to remote disk"
button, but mine never lights up. I wonder if that's mediated by
Bonjour, or given the SMB trouble perhaps AFP only?

Complete failure. Bum.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
There he saw Merry's feet still sticking out - the rest had already been
drawn further inside. Tom put his mouth to the crack and began singing
into it in a low voice. They could not catch the words, but evidently
Merry was aroused. -- J R R Tolkien
From: Chris Ridd on 5 May 2008 10:46
On 2008-05-05 14:25:29 +0100, Jaimie Vandenbergh
<jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> said:

> So lets pop into Utilities/Restore from backup anyway... "Select a
> Backup Source" screen offers a greyed out "connect to remote disk"
> button, but mine never lights up. I wonder if that's mediated by
> Bonjour, or given the SMB trouble perhaps AFP only?

The Remote Disk's the thing Apple introduced for the Air (but is now
for all in 10.5.2), isn't it? I wonder if you can set up a remote disk
"server" somewhere that exports your TM data as a disk?

How does Remote Disk work anyway?

Cheers,

Chris

From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 5 May 2008 18:58
On Mon, 5 May 2008 15:46:14 +0100, Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com>
wrote:

>On 2008-05-05 14:25:29 +0100, Jaimie Vandenbergh
><jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> said:
>
>> So lets pop into Utilities/Restore from backup anyway... "Select a
>> Backup Source" screen offers a greyed out "connect to remote disk"
>> button, but mine never lights up. I wonder if that's mediated by
>> Bonjour, or given the SMB trouble perhaps AFP only?
>
>The Remote Disk's the thing Apple introduced for the Air (but is now
>for all in 10.5.2), isn't it? I wonder if you can set up a remote disk
>"server" somewhere that exports your TM data as a disk?
>
>How does Remote Disk work anyway?

Bonjour, afaict. Host advertises the drive, client spots it, [optional
authorisation step,] it appears in the client Finder window.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
In most timelines, the many-worlds hypothesis is held to be obviously false
From: Chris Ridd on 6 May 2008 00:41
On 2008-05-05 23:58:14 +0100, Jaimie Vandenbergh
<jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> said:

> On Mon, 5 May 2008 15:46:14 +0100, Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com>
> wrote:
>
>> How does Remote Disk work anyway?
>
> Bonjour, afaict. Host advertises the drive, client spots it, [optional
> authorisation step,] it appears in the client Finder window.

I'm sure Bonjour *is* used, but isn't it just the way the client finds
the server, and that some other protocol takes on the heavy lifting
once that's happened?

Cheers,

Chris

From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 6 May 2008 05:20
On Tue, 6 May 2008 05:41:24 +0100, Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com>
wrote:

>On 2008-05-05 23:58:14 +0100, Jaimie Vandenbergh
><jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> said:
>
>> On Mon, 5 May 2008 15:46:14 +0100, Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How does Remote Disk work anyway?
>>
>> Bonjour, afaict. Host advertises the drive, client spots it, [optional
>> authorisation step,] it appears in the client Finder window.
>
>I'm sure Bonjour *is* used, but isn't it just the way the client finds
>the server, and that some other protocol takes on the heavy lifting
>once that's happened?

It's AFP after that, at least on running machines. Not sure what a
netbooted Air uses, and I cba to break out a sniffer and find out.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.
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