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From: plamen.usenet on 6 May 2008 12:13 On May 3, 8:30 pm, Ken Tilton <kennytil...(a)optonline.net> wrote: > > What I see happening is India or China discovering CL specifically and > standardizing on it (er, informally) and crushing the West. Man, that > would be funny, but not surprising. Kenny, if one knows the history, then he knows the future... http://home.pipeline.com/~hbaker1/sigplannotices/gigo-1997-04.html Have fun :) Plamen Stamov P.S. And for newbies - read better the rest of the Baker's articles.
From: George Neuner on 6 May 2008 12:20 On Tue, 06 May 2008 11:51:53 -0400, Edi Weitz <spamtrap(a)agharta.de> wrote: >On Tue, 06 May 2008 09:43:16 -0600, Robert Uhl <eadmund42(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote: > >> With standard C plus standard POSIX, you're pretty much certain that >> your app will run anywhere important. > >How many useful and/or successful Windows apps have been written in >pure standard C plus standard POSIX? Zero ... it can't be done. Windows itself abuses portability. The code between the GUI glue can be portable but the whole cannot be. George -- for email reply remove "/" from address
From: Slobodan Blazeski on 6 May 2008 12:36 On May 6, 5:43 pm, Duane Rettig <du...(a)franz.com> wrote: > I was the one that originally suggested to the tiobe people that they > combine Lisp and Scheme. You're only sin in all those years I'm reading this group.
From: Peter Hildebrandt on 7 May 2008 03:11 On Wed, 07 May 2008 04:47:20 +0200, wrote: > On Tue, 06 May 2008 13:55:13 -0400, Edi Weitz <spamtrap(a)agharta.de> > wrote: > >> On Tue, 06 May 2008 12:20:29 -0400, George Neuner >> <gneuner2/@/comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> Windows itself abuses portability. The code between the GUI glue >>> can be portable but the whole cannot be. >> >> That's different for GUI programs on OS X or KDE or Gnome? > > It potentially could be if the program were written for raw X instead > of using a widget framework or the native window manager. Actually, the widget frameworks for both KDE and Gnome, Qt and GTK respectively, are available for linux, windows, and OSX -- meaning that if you refrain from using platform-specific things, your GUI application will in fact be portable. The critical point here is the separation of operating system (platform specific), window manager (less so), and widget toolkit (portable). Peter -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
From: Slobodan Blazeski on 7 May 2008 03:17
On May 6, 9:43 pm, Duane Rettig <du...(a)franz.com> wrote: > Slobodan Blazeski <slobodan.blaze...(a)gmail.com> writes: > > On May 6, 5:43 pm, Duane Rettig <du...(a)franz.com> wrote: > >> I was the one that originally suggested to the tiobe people that they > >> combine Lisp and Scheme. > > > You're only sin in all those years I'm reading this group. > > I'm not sure of the meaning of your reply. Are you saying that I > committed an immoral act by suggesting that Scheme and Lisp are > related? Immoral yes, but its because you persuaded tiobe that scheme and lisp are SAME language so they can be aggregated, something that couldn't be farther from the truth. Tiobe is the index of programming languages and as soon it started become a index of programming languages WITH SOME language families the sense was lost. How do I know what part of lisp popularity comes from scheme and what part comes from lisp. When that information was lost by aggregation,I stopped fallowing it. So you did cl a bad favour. But don't worry to much you had a lot of good karma to spare. slobodan The Road To Hell Is Paved With Good Intentions > > -- > Duane Rettig du...(a)franz.com Franz Inc. http://www.franz.com/ > 555 12th St., Suite 1450 http://www.555citycenter.com/ > Oakland, Ca. 94607 Phone: (510) 452-2000; Fax: (510) 452-0182 |