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From: John Lewis on 4 Dec 2007 12:42 See:- http://techreport.com/discussions.x/13724 And let the buyer beware even after the new mas-versions are available, as there are likely to be a lot of the old parts still floating in the system. Seems as if the huge $$ losses at AMD may have indirectly contributed to a rush to market and less than thorough design and testing of Barcelona and Phenom. The TLB problem should have been discovered in pre-production test and not have thousands of chips released into the wild. Reminds me of the Pentium 4 floating-point problems a few years ago One big difference - Intel was not short of money and critically dependent on a single design-family pulling them into the black. The fact that BOTH Barcelona and Phenom are hit with exactly the same design problem for which the current workarounds seem to cause a serious performance hit is a potentially disastrous turn of events for processor families already confronted with superior performance from the competing Intel designs. Barcelona shipments are mostly halted until a fix is in place -- so, how many production wafers using the old masks are front-loaded into the system and will now need to be trashed, adding to AMD's burden of financial woes ? John Lewis |