From: cbrichards via SQLMonster.com on
I am limited in my testing environment, so I am trying to validate my
findings via this post. I am trying to understand:
(1) if the size of the log file affects backups?
(2) if the free space in the log file affects backups?

I am not sure how to test for #2 above, but in my tests regarding #1, if I
run a backup with a 10GB log file, (with an 8GB data file), the backup took 2
minutes and 35 seconds. If I then shrunk the log file to 5 GB and ran the
backup, the backup still took the same amount of time, and the size of the
BAK file was nearly the same size.

Can you explain how backups behave based upon the two questions above?

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From: Andrew J. Kelly on
The size of the log file for the most part doesn't affect the backups
anywhere near as much as the amount of actual data in the log file does. I
can't comment on your tests since there are too many factors to consider
without knowing anything about how you did the tests and what was in the log
to begin with.

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"cbrichards via SQLMonster.com" <u3288(a)uwe> wrote in message
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> I am limited in my testing environment, so I am trying to validate my
> findings via this post. I am trying to understand:
> (1) if the size of the log file affects backups?
> (2) if the free space in the log file affects backups?
>
> I am not sure how to test for #2 above, but in my tests regarding #1, if I
> run a backup with a 10GB log file, (with an 8GB data file), the backup
> took 2
> minutes and 35 seconds. If I then shrunk the log file to 5 GB and ran the
> backup, the backup still took the same amount of time, and the size of the
> BAK file was nearly the same size.
>
> Can you explain how backups behave based upon the two questions above?
>
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From: cbrichards via SQLMonster.com on
So, if I understand what you are saying, lets say I have a 20 GB log file.

If the log file has very little free space, (lets say it only has 1GB free,
or 19GB of data in the log file) then, by what you are saying it would take
longer to execute this backup (all other things being equal), than if the log
had 19GB free space and 1 GB of data in the log file?

Andrew J. Kelly wrote:
>The size of the log file for the most part doesn't affect the backups
>anywhere near as much as the amount of actual data in the log file does.

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From: Erland Sommarskog on
cbrichards via SQLMonster.com (u3288(a)uwe) writes:
> So, if I understand what you are saying, lets say I have a 20 GB log file.
>
> If the log file has very little free space, (lets say it only has 1GB
> free, or 19GB of data in the log file) then, by what you are saying it
> would take longer to execute this backup (all other things being equal),
> than if the log had 19GB free space and 1 GB of data in the log file?

Yes, the *log* backup would take longer time to execute. I would not
expect the time for the the database backup (full or differential) to
be affected by how much that is in the log file.


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From: Andrew J. Kelly on
Basically yes but as always it depends on what is in the log file etc. But
the more active VLF's there are the more potential work the backup must do
when it looks thru the log to see what it needs to backup and of course what
it backs up.

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"cbrichards via SQLMonster.com" <u3288(a)uwe> wrote in message
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> So, if I understand what you are saying, lets say I have a 20 GB log file.
>
> If the log file has very little free space, (lets say it only has 1GB
> free,
> or 19GB of data in the log file) then, by what you are saying it would
> take
> longer to execute this backup (all other things being equal), than if the
> log
> had 19GB free space and 1 GB of data in the log file?
>
> Andrew J. Kelly wrote:
>>The size of the log file for the most part doesn't affect the backups
>>anywhere near as much as the amount of actual data in the log file does.
>
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>