From: Hactar on
I got pissed off at my CD player (a carousel unit that's gotta be a
teenager by now) as it (1) is full, (2) is NOT expandable, and (3)
forgot all the disc titles. So, I'm on a mission to build an
ultra-quiet MP3-playing computer. I've chosen:

case (mini-ITX, fanless, black):
http://www.logicsupply.com/products/gs_l01

motherboard & CPU (Via Epia ML-8000A, Via C3 @ 800 MHz):
http://www.jinco.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=12848

RAM (1GB):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134171

5 16 GB thumb drives to go in a RAID 5 (? 4 * partition + parity) making
64 GB:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208378

USB hub:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817145033

4-line LED panel:
http://www.matrixorbital.com/product_info.php?pName=lk20425

I'll find a keyboard somewhere. One of these days I'll replace it with
a CD-style keypad. It'll run Linux, no X. What have I forgotten? How
should I boot? Would two 4-port hubs be better than one 7-port one, so
only ~half the drives go through any one port? Is it OK to go for an
unpowered hub? Has someone already written code to handle these things
or do I have a lot of scripting and/or coding to do? Thanks all.

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From: Henrik Carlqvist on
ebenZEROONE(a)verizon.net (Hactar) wrote:
> case (mini-ITX, fanless, black):
> http://www.logicsupply.com/products/gs_l01

Seems to be a nice box...

> 5 16 GB thumb drives to go in a RAID 5 (? 4 * partition + parity) making
> 64 GB:
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208378

Maybe another option would be to boot by PXE network and have root file
system mounted by NFS? With such a solution you would have a networked
noisy server in another room.

> 4-line LED panel:
> http://www.matrixorbital.com/product_info.php?pName=lk20425

The LED panels are cheaper than the VFD panels, however VFD panels look
more exclusive. However, how are you going to fit that panel into the box
of your choice?

> I'll find a keyboard somewhere.

A keyboard might be useful during installation and configuration. For day
to day operation a remote control might be more convenient.

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From: Hactar on
In article <pan.2008.04.21.03.49.07.803136(a)deadspam.com>,
Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist(a)deadspam.com> wrote:
> ebenZEROONE(a)verizon.net (Hactar) wrote:
>
> > 5 16 GB thumb drives to go in a RAID 5 (? 4 * partition + parity) making
> > 64 GB:
> > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208378
>
> Maybe another option would be to boot by PXE network and have root file
> system mounted by NFS? With such a solution you would have a networked
> noisy server in another room.

Possibly. Where the stereo cabinet is, there's not a reasonable way to
use wired LAN, so it'd have to be wireless. Your way is simpler and
easier to expand. I may do that at first and see how I like it, since
it's ~$400 cheaper as well (which is a powerful incentive to like it).
And it solves the problem of how to boot. My machine's already on 24/7,
so what's one more task? Oh yeah, I need to pick a wireless card. How
about

ASUS WL-138g:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320022

> > 4-line LED panel:
> > http://www.matrixorbital.com/product_info.php?pName=lk20425
>
> The LED panels are cheaper than the VFD panels, however VFD panels look
> more exclusive.

Crud, I didn't realize I was only seeing their "best of" selection.
There are lots of other models, some of which have color schemes I
prefer. Making the image BIG so I can read (FSVO) that tiny display
from across the room is good (and my eyes suck, so that's no mean feat).
Any idea whether the text on say
http://www.matrixorbital.com/product_info.php?pName=lcd2041gwe
can be drawn at any size, or just the sizes and configuration shown?

> However, how are you going to fit that panel into the box
> of your choice?

It'll probably have to be externally mounted. It takes a serial input.
Maybe I'll pick up a box from Radio Shack if I feel creative. Well, I
pretty well have to, it's a naked PCB as is. Maybe not from RS, they
have mounting kits at the vendor:

http://www.matrixorbital.com/product_info.php?pName=mk2041bl-black-alum

> > I'll find a keyboard somewhere.
>
> A keyboard might be useful during installation and configuration. For day
> to day operation a remote control might be more convenient.

True, maybe I'll get in the habit. The old CD player didn't have one,
so whenever I wanted sound I'd trek over to the rack. The stereo has
one SOMEWHERE...

I hope the board boots sans keyboard.

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From: Trevor Hemsley on
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:08:03 UTC in comp.os.linux.hardware,
ebenZEROONE(a)verizon.net (Hactar) wrote:

> 5 16 GB thumb drives to go in a RAID 5 (? 4 * partition + parity) making
> 64 GB:

I have no idea of the life epectancy of those but I would also look at using 3 x
2.5" laptop drives instead, also in RAID 5. You can get a 60GB version for
about $50 - that seems to be the smallest size you can buy at the moment. If you
went that route you might want to find a different motherboard with SATA ports
to connect them to.




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From: Hactar on
In article <lNtNPEEcldVto2Gn9Lxf3Nij1c9rN(a)trevor2.dsl.pipex.com>,
Trevor Hemsley <Trevor.Hemsley(a)mytrousers.ntlworld.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:08:03 UTC in comp.os.linux.hardware,
> ebenZEROONE(a)verizon.net (Hactar) wrote:
>
> > 5 16 GB thumb drives to go in a RAID 5 (? 4 * partition + parity) making
> > 64 GB:
>
> I have no idea of the life epectancy of those but I would also look at using 3 x
> 2.5" laptop drives instead, also in RAID 5. You can get a 60GB version for
> about $50 - that seems to be the smallest size you can buy at the moment. If you
> went that route you might want to find a different motherboard with SATA ports
> to connect them to.

Dunno... I'm trying to agoid anything that creates even a small amount
of noise. This will be in my bedroom, after all. I think I'm going to
go for having it boot and mount its filesystems over the LAN, from this
machine which is up 24/7. Yeah, that ties its operation to the router
and my machine.

Maybe a hybrid, with some 2.5" drives hanging off a USB cable in the
closet?

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