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From: GTalbot on 9 Apr 2008 18:05
On 8 mar, 12:58, "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4...(a)central.net> wrote:

> A pain ain't it! As as MS keeps dragging behind like a uncooperative
> 2-year-old this is a web designer's reality. Recent reports I've read
> IE8 is that it will probably fall short again opposed to first blush...

Johnathan,

I think it would be more proper here to be nuanced and be more "wait-
and-see". You and I do not know how good/correct/compliant IE 8 final
will be. So far, Microsoft has created a brand new rendering engine
and many modules (eg inline module) have not been yet implemented but
will be implemented before IE 8 final is RTM. Solid facts we can be
sure of so far about IE 8:

- float model implementation has been corrected: there are still some
issues left
- adjoining margin collapsing has been fixed entirely
- z-index has been correctly implemented: there are still a few cases
left to fix
- the most glaring obvious bugs (1 crash and 3 hang bugs) have been
fixed
- people are filing bugs at connect

Lots of people complained about the above 5 items.

- there won't be any CSS 3 properties implemented (eg opacity, border-
radius), no SVG support. I personally do not see why many people are
upset with that. IE's proprietary filter: alpha(opacity=) should be
supported in IE 8 final.

If IE 8 beta 1 is a fair indication of what IE 8 final will be, then
IE 8 will reduce the gap between other better-web-standards-compliant
browsers like Firefox 3, Opera 9.50, Safari 3.1 and Konqueror 4.03.
There will be areas where IE 8 will be far behind like DOM 2 Events,
DOM 2 CSS.

"Our goal is to deliver complete, full CSS 2.1 support in the final
IE8 product."
Dean Hachamovitch, General Manager, Internet Explorer, March 5th 2008
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/03/05/internet-explorer-8-beta-1-for-developers-now-available.aspx

"We want to make IE8's Standards mode much, much better than IE7's
Standards mode."
Dean Hachamovitch, March 3rd 2008
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/03/03/microsoft-s-interoperability-principles-and-ie8.aspx

Microsoft has also commited itself on a number of issues like complete
DOM (1 or 2?) Core support. There will be a beta 2 release.
After a careful reading of their documentation, I believe DOM 2 Events
interface and DOM 2 Stylesheets interface won't be implemented..

Regards, Gérard
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Internet Explorer 8 bugs
http://www.gtalbot.org/BrowserBugsSection/MSIE8Bugs/
From: Jonathan N. Little on 9 Apr 2008 21:06
GTalbot wrote:
> On 8 mar, 12:58, "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4...(a)central.net> wrote:
>
>> A pain ain't it! As as MS keeps dragging behind like a uncooperative
>> 2-year-old this is a web designer's reality. Recent reports I've read
>> IE8 is that it will probably fall short again opposed to first blush...
>
> Johnathan,
>
> I think it would be more proper here to be nuanced and be more "wait-
> and-see". You and I do not know how good/correct/compliant IE 8 final
> will be. So far, Microsoft has created a brand new rendering engine
> and many modules (eg inline module) have not been yet implemented but
> will be implemented before IE 8 final is RTM. Solid facts we can be
> sure of so far about IE 8:
>

Hmm call me a cynic, but it would be nice if it comes true. Where did
they get the rendering engine from?

--
Take care,

Jonathan
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