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From: Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] on 14 May 2008 21:40 Sigh - he is the Father of the Ribbon so what he says carries a lot more truth AND weight than any thing you might think. -- Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without reading. After furious head scratching, Joe asked: | he is another microsoft apologist for the ribbon.. and a lot of what | he says is not exactly correct and he repeats himself a lot. i hardly | think he's objective, being a microsoft employee. | | "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote: | || http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh - think again. || || -- || Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] || || Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All || unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without || reading. || || After furious head scratching, chemicals asked: || ||| Although I am not opposed to new changes...I have lost ||| productuctivity for several weeks (so far) in my Office apps. I ||| find the new groups cumbersome, inconsistent, and unintuitive. I am ||| constantantly searching for the same functions. Supposedly the ||| ribbon is to reduce the number of mouse-clicks but I think it's just ||| driven by the Microsoft developers wanting to do something new after ||| years of the same interface. I don't think it is driven by the user ||| community....
From: Thames on 22 May 2008 10:00 This might help you out http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=197650 "Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote: > Hi Ripsteel, > > > If you can work with just the Quick Access Toolbar (QAT) then you may want to consider minimizing the Ribbon using either Ctrl+F1 or > double clicking on a tab. To 'float' selected commands in a 'toolbar' you may want to try the trial version of > http://ToolbarToggle.com (which is one of several tools that also allow you to have the look of 'classic' menus/toolbars. > > Hopefully there will be better user tools in a future version of Office to tweak the Ribbon, but you actually can > add/subtract/replace sections of the ribbon on your own with Office 2007, but at present it's another learning curve, or use a 3rd > party tool. > > There aren't, that I've found, too many 'for the beginner' sites on this but you may want to try out a customization with the steps > here (you can copy and paste most of it <g>) > > Word 2007: http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_Ribbon.htm > or > Excel 2007: http://www.rondebruin.nl/ribbon.htm > http://www.excelguru.ca/node/93 > > or use the User Interface (UI) tools from http://ribboncustomizer.com > > Basically, the ribbon is made up of XML elements, created in an outline like structure starting with the User Interface (UI), then > subtiered: > > <customUI> > <Ribbon> > <Tab> > <Group on Tab> > <Button in Group> > <Button Picture/Text> > <Action - give the button something to do> > > Yes, it then takes a bit of programming/macros to 'run' the changes (see notes about cut and paste above <g>). The vocabulary of > RibbonX and XML terms can be the initial big curve to get past. > > Let us know how you make out if you take the plunge to make your own > 'My Ribbon' tab :) > > If you have created customized Word toolbars in prior versions then you can use those in Word 2007 as well, and you can have the > Toolbars appear as a dropdown on the QAT > http://gmayor.com/Toolbars_in_word_2007.htm > > ============== > <<"Ripsteel" <Ripsteel(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:62CBDA7E-164A-4571-81BC-535672665B1D(a)microsoft.com... > You know, so many people are expressing disgust with the ribbon, but I feel > like the only problem it has is that I can't add and remove buttons. I don't > care about the menus because I used the buttons for everything. I just did a > quick count, and if you look across all the tabs in Word 2007 there are > 175(ish) buttons you could click on at any time (not counting switching back > and forth from tab to tab). I have 38 buttons on my customized version of > Word 2003 and almost never use a menu. Even if I leave the Home tab open all > the time, I still need 20 buttons on the QAT to get all of my buttons where I > can see them without switching from tab to tab. By contrast, the Home tab > alone has about 43 visible buttons (without digging into them at all) > including 25 buttons that I feel like I'll almost never use. Wouldn't it be > wild if I could replace the style section with things that I do use? It would > take up less screen room as well. I've been using 2007 for a few months, and > the experts can say what they will, but I probably use about 25% more mouse > clicks than I ever did before, and it makes the whole thing feel sluggish and > sad. By contrast, I work in a state that just supplied us with MacBooks, and > as much as I'd like to take mine out into a field and smash it with a > baseball bat (a la Office Space), I found the Mac word processing software > that came with it easier to use and to get used to than the ribbon in 2007. > Does anyone know how complicated it would be for MS to make it so you can add > and remove buttons from tabs? >> > -- > > Bob Buckland ?:-) > MS Office System Products MVP > > *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* > > >
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