Chandler Germanium Gear?
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From: Joe Kramer on 2 Oct 2005 18:07 Hi Folks, The new TapeOp contains an ad announcing Chandlers's germanium-based mic pre and compressor. Very interesting, but no info on the Chandler site yet. What transistors are used in these units? Regards, Joe
From: Geoff Wood on 3 Oct 2005 04:27 "Joe Kramer" <musetrap(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:RSY%e.6325$oc.2200(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Hi Folks, > > The new TapeOp contains an ad announcing Chandlers's germanium-based mic > pre and compressor. Very interesting, but no info on the Chandler site > yet. What transistors are used in these units? Another question could be "why ?". And already being germanium, it shouldn't be long before Behringear have one. geoff
From: Joe Kramer on 3 Oct 2005 13:50 Since there doesn't seem to be much info on these floating around yet, here's what the TapeOp ad says: "New For Fall of 2005 and Winter of 2006 G E R M A N I U M Pre Amps and Compressors Chandler's newest series of units starts off with the GERMANIA pre amp. A completely new design by Chandler Limited designer Wade Goeke that uses classic germanium transistors in all class A, transformer balanced circuits. The use of germanium devices opens up a whole new sound palate not found in any pro audio equipment currently manufactured. These incredibly smooth-sounding transistors were the basis of the earliest transistor designs by NEVE (1053 & 1057), EMI (TG12345 MKI), Telefunken, and Fairchild. The GERMANIUM series runs on +40 volt power, very high current, and has a huge +34 output before clipping. The sound is warm and smooth as with many vintage-style circuits, but you'll find a whole new world of smooth here as well as sound that settles in perfectly to your tracks without fighting. . . ." Typical ad copy. No picture of the actual unit, but a line drawing.
From: Scott Dorsey on 11 Oct 2005 11:06 Joe Kramer <musetrap(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >The new TapeOp contains an ad announcing Chandlers's germanium-based mic >pre and compressor. Very interesting, but no info on the Chandler site >yet. What transistors are used in these units? I asked at the AES show and they wouldn't tell me. They did insist that they are current production devices and not NOS. I know there is an outfit in upstate NY that is making germanium power transistors, because jj told me at the show. He didn't know about small signal stuff. I can't imagine any of the small transistor outfits in the third world would be doing these because they're actually not easy to make. Apparently the New York guys are making them for government applications where the low turn-on voltage is important. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
From: Joe Kramer on 11 Oct 2005 12:51
Scott Dorsey wrote: > Joe Kramer <musetrap(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >>The new TapeOp contains an ad announcing Chandlers's germanium-based mic >>pre and compressor. Very interesting, but no info on the Chandler site >>yet. What transistors are used in these units? > > > I asked at the AES show and they wouldn't tell me. They did insist that > they are current production devices and not NOS. > > I know there is an outfit in upstate NY that is making germanium power > transistors, because jj told me at the show. He didn't know about small > signal stuff. I can't imagine any of the small transistor outfits in the > third world would be doing these because they're actually not easy to make. > Apparently the New York guys are making them for government applications > where the low turn-on voltage is important. > --scott Hey Scott, thanks very much for tracking down an answer to this. The plot thickens: not only are they germanium, but they're somewhat proprietary. A couple of years ago I built a run of fuzz boxes for sale, and bought some "fake" NKT275s (newly manufactured after original specs) from an outfit in New York, whose name I can't recall. They cost about $1.50 each, but were fairly consistent in gain and low in leakage. Sounded pretty good. From what I gather the Fulltone fuzzes used "remakes" like these too. Possibly from the same outfit? Joe |