From: Sam Wormley on
Climate of suspicion
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v463/n7279/full/463269a.html

"No matter how evident climate change becomes, however, other factors
will ultimately determine whether the public accepts the facts.
Empirical evidence shows that people tend to react to reports on issues
such as climate change according to their personal values (see page
296). Those who favour individualism over egalitarianism are more likely
to reject evidence of climate change and calls to restrict emissions.
And the messenger matters perhaps just as much as the message. People
have more trust in experts � and scientists � when they sense that the
speaker shares their values. The climate-research community would thus
do well to use a diverse set of voices, from different backgrounds, when
communicating with policy-makers and the public. And scientists should
be careful not to disparage those on the other side of a debate: a
respectful tone makes it easier for people to change their minds if they
share something in common with that other side.
From: Peter Franks on
Sam Wormley wrote:
> Climate of suspicion
> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v463/n7279/full/463269a.html
>
> "No matter how evident climate change becomes, however, other factors
> will ultimately determine whether the public accepts the facts.
> Empirical evidence shows that people tend to react to reports on issues
> such as climate change according to their personal values (see page
> 296). Those who favour individualism over egalitarianism are more likely
> to reject evidence of climate change and calls to restrict emissions.
> And the messenger matters perhaps just as much as the message. People
> have more trust in experts � and scientists � when they sense that the
> speaker shares their values. The climate-research community would thus
> do well to use a diverse set of voices, from different backgrounds, when
> communicating with policy-makers and the public. And scientists should
> be careful not to disparage those on the other side of a debate: a
> respectful tone makes it easier for people to change their minds if they
> share something in common with that other side.

That's just common human decency.

The problem with a 'scientist' is that by and large they are driven to
prove their hypothesis. If the data don't agree, then they conclude
that the data are wrong and go about proving it a different way. After
all, they don't get fame and fortune proving their hypotheses wrong, do
they?.
From: ATM on
To hell with the idiotic uneducated peons who think they know better...just
keep 'em employed for a good tax base.



"Sam Wormley" <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Climate of suspicion
> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v463/n7279/full/463269a.html
>
> "No matter how evident climate change becomes, however, other factors will
> ultimately determine whether the public accepts the facts. Empirical
> evidence shows that people tend to react to reports on issues such as
> climate change according to their personal values (see page 296). Those
> who favour individualism over egalitarianism are more likely to reject
> evidence of climate change and calls to restrict emissions. And the
> messenger matters perhaps just as much as the message. People have more
> trust in experts � and scientists � when they sense that the speaker
> shares their values. The climate-research community would thus do well to
> use a diverse set of voices, from different backgrounds, when
> communicating with policy-makers and the public. And scientists should be
> careful not to disparage those on the other side of a debate: a respectful
> tone makes it easier for people to change their minds if they share
> something in common with that other side.


From: Marvin the Martian on
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:06:53 -0800, Peter Franks wrote:

> Sam Wormley wrote:
>> Climate of suspicion
>> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v463/n7279/full/463269a.html
>>
>> "No matter how evident climate change becomes, however, other factors
>> will ultimately determine whether the public accepts the facts.
>> Empirical evidence shows that people tend to react to reports on issues
>> such as climate change according to their personal values (see page
>> 296). Those who favour individualism over egalitarianism are more
>> likely to reject evidence of climate change and calls to restrict
>> emissions. And the messenger matters perhaps just as much as the
>> message. People have more trust in experts — and scientists — when they
>> sense that the speaker shares their values. The climate-research
>> community would thus do well to use a diverse set of voices, from
>> different backgrounds, when communicating with policy-makers and the
>> public. And scientists should be careful not to disparage those on the
>> other side of a debate: a respectful tone makes it easier for people to
>> change their minds if they share something in common with that other
>> side.
>
> That's just common human decency.
>
> The problem with a 'scientist' is that by and large they are driven to
> prove their hypothesis. If the data don't agree, then they conclude
> that the data are wrong and go about proving it a different way. After
> all, they don't get fame and fortune proving their hypotheses wrong, do
> they?.

The idiots and posers at Nature were willing participants in this
bastardization of science.

Quite frankly, their editorial has no place in science, and their
speculation on the best propaganda techniques to use in light of the
exposure of the massive scientific fraud THEY ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED IN
reflects on their decidedly anti-science, pro socialist political view.
From: Mike Jr on
On Jan 22, 8:06 pm, Peter Franks <n...(a)none.com> wrote:
> Sam Wormley wrote:
> > Climate of suspicion
> >  http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v463/n7279/full/463269a.html
>
> > "No matter how evident climate change becomes, however, other factors
> > will ultimately determine whether the public accepts the facts.
> > Empirical evidence shows that people tend to react to reports on issues
> > such as climate change according to their personal values (see page
> > 296). Those who favour individualism over egalitarianism are more likely
> > to reject evidence of climate change and calls to restrict emissions.
> > And the messenger matters perhaps just as much as the message. People
> > have more trust in experts — and scientists — when they sense that the
> > speaker shares their values. The climate-research community would thus
> > do well to use a diverse set of voices, from different backgrounds, when
> > communicating with policy-makers and the public. And scientists should
> > be careful not to disparage those on the other side of a debate: a
> > respectful tone makes it easier for people to change their minds if they
> > share something in common with that other side.
>
> That's just common human decency.
>
> The problem with a 'scientist' is that by and large they are driven to
> prove their hypothesis.  If the data don't agree, then they conclude
> that the data are wrong and go about proving it a different way.  After
> all, they don't get fame and fortune proving their hypotheses wrong, do
> they?.

You are supposed to get as much credit for disproving a hypothesis as
proving it. But with "climate change" (BTW, doesn't it aways?) you
only get funding if your work supports the predetermined political
objective. That isn't science, that is advocacy.

Decide; are you a scientist or a politician? Nature's editors have.

--Mike Jr.