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From: Martijn van Buul on 19 Mar 2007 05:56
* Rick Youngman:
> give : me : a : break : dude :::::::: using :: an ::acoustic :::
> modem :: would :::: be ::: way ::: to easy :::: if ya could sit by the
> phone 24/7.....

That's not what the article was about. What the article was about was
in essence the same as what you were going to attempt, give or take a few
utterly uninteresting details. What matters is the concept, and the concept
appears to work for low-speed connections.

> I'm talking about a DIRECT connection to the modem... not having to
> dial a number on the cell and put it in a cradel with a bunch of duct
> tape, and then type AT commands on my computer too.

I know that. However, this will *NOT* change the general outcome. The only
real difference with your "genius" solution would be the dialing bit, but the
actual connection itself would be the same.

> PS FYI ::::::: those are colons ......... these are
> periods ......... I ......use......periods....... when.......
> I .......write...... for ....pauses...... NOT :::::::::colons

The point is that you shouldn't use them. They are annoying, distracting,
and generally unhelpful.

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Martijn van Buul - pino(a)dohd.org
From: Bill H on 19 Mar 2007 06:07
On Mar 19, 5:56 am, Martijn van Buul <p...(a)dohd.org> wrote:
> * Rick Youngman:
>
> > give : me : a : break : dude :::::::: using :: an ::acoustic :::
> > modem :: would :::: be ::: way ::: to easy :::: if ya could sit by the
> > phone 24/7.....
>
> That's not what the article was about. What the article was about was
> in essence the same as what you were going to attempt, give or take a few
> utterly uninteresting details. What matters is the concept, and the concept
> appears to work for low-speed connections.
>
> > I'm talking about a DIRECT connection to the modem... not having to
> > dial a number on the cell and put it in a cradel with a bunch of duct
> > tape, and then type AT commands on my computer too.
>
> I know that. However, this will *NOT* change the general outcome. The only
> real difference with your "genius" solution would be the dialing bit, but the
> actual connection itself would be the same.
>
> > PS FYI ::::::: those are colons ......... these are
> > periods ......... I ......use......periods....... when.......
> > I .......write...... for ....pauses...... NOT :::::::::colons
>
> The point is that you shouldn't use them. They are annoying, distracting,
> and generally unhelpful.
>
> --
> Martijn van Buul - p...(a)dohd.org


The easist way to test would be to have a fax hooked up to the system
and try to send / receive. This will tell you if it works. Does their
specs mention you can plug you fax into the system?

Bill H

From: Martijn van Buul on 19 Mar 2007 06:18
* Bill H:
> The easist way to test would be to have a fax hooked up to the system
> and try to send / receive. This will tell you if it works. Does their
> specs mention you can plug you fax into the system?

Quoting OP's own link:
http://www.phonelabs.com/faq01.asp#Q21

Q. Does the Dock-N-Talk work with modems, fax machines, security systems,
credit card readers, TiVo, DirecTV, or other satellite TV systems?

A. Digital voice networks do not support modem or fax tones. Older analog
cellular service will allow use of modems and fax at very low speeds but is
expected to be discontinued later this year. However, the digital voice
networks do allow the passing of DTMF tones to transmit information to such as
devices as IVR systems that require touch tones. Credit card readers, fax, TiVo
,DirecTV, or other satellite TV systems are not supported by digital voice
cellular service.

The bandwidth is just too low. Cellular phones use a lossy compression,
aimed at human speech. GSM is migrating to a scheme that uses an adaptive
bitrate, ranging from 4.75 to 12.2 kbps, and is in essence a half-duplex thing.
Works good for speech, but wasn't designed for modems, faxes and other stuff.

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artijn van Buul - pino(a)dohd.org
From: Rick Youngman on 19 Mar 2007 21:04
On Mar 19, 3:18 am, Martijn van Buul <p...(a)dohd.org> wrote:

<snip>
> The bandwidth is just too low. Cellular phones use a lossy compression,
> aimed at human speech. GSM is migrating to a scheme that uses an adaptive
> bitrate, ranging from 4.75 to 12.2 kbps, and is in essence a half-duplex thing.
> Works good for speech, but wasn't designed for modems, faxes and other stuff.
>
> --
> artijn van Buul - p...(a)dohd.org

well thats somewhat encouraging just the same, even if you could only
connect at 300 baud.... if it can be done for "free", there could be a
re-birth of BBsing again

From: agila61 on 20 Mar 2007 00:31
On Mar 16, 5:35 pm, "Andrew Wiskow" <wis...(a)verizon.net> wrote:
> those..... are..... not..... colons.....

> they..... are..... periods.....

Maybe they are colons that fell over.

Like these::::........

Don't jiggle the screen, the others could fall over at any minute. And
for goodness sake, type gently.

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