From: Michael Breslau on
Windoze XP - wired ethernet - iMac 10.5.3. - Canon IP4500 printer
Latest printer drivers from Canon on all computers
Bonjour client from Apple on the PC

If I print from the XP box, nothing comes out of the printer.

Out of desperation, I configured another printer on the PC, this time
using the default Postscript driver (written by HP it turns out)
This actually works very well, but I loose all my special functions like
duplex printing.

Scanning the internet reveals the cross-platform printing is fraught
with problems...

Question: Can anyone suggest a Postscript printer driver for the PC
that is code compatible with the special features if the IP4500?

thanks,
Mike
From: Michael Breslau on
In article <vilain-833C74.23383024062008(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
Michael Vilain <vilain(a)NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> In article <mbreslau-BBE0E3.15295924062008(a)news.speakeasy.net>,
> Michael Breslau <mbreslau(a)speakeasy.org> wrote:
>
> > Windoze XP - wired ethernet - iMac 10.5.3. - Canon IP4500 printer
> > Latest printer drivers from Canon on all computers
> > Bonjour client from Apple on the PC
> >
> > If I print from the XP box, nothing comes out of the printer.
> >
> > Out of desperation, I configured another printer on the PC, this time
> > using the default Postscript driver (written by HP it turns out)
> > This actually works very well, but I loose all my special functions like
> > duplex printing.
> >
> > Scanning the internet reveals the cross-platform printing is fraught
> > with problems...
> >
> > Question: Can anyone suggest a Postscript printer driver for the PC
> > that is code compatible with the special features if the IP4500?
> >
> > thanks,
> > Mike
>
> This is an inkjet printer. Where are you getting that this is has a
> postscript interpret in it? Typically, inkjets don't have postscript.
> It adds to the cost of the printer. The Canon site for this printer is
>
> http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid
> =184&modelid=15596#ModelDetailAct
>
> There are XP drivers for it. From the spec, it's a USB printer with no
> ethernet or networking capability. Are you sure you have the right
> printer spec here? The page doesn't say anything about this being a
> network printer.
>
> Rather than pull your hair out (if you have any) further, why not setup
> a SAMBA shared printer with the thing attached to the iMac?
>
> Do you expect this group to be very effective at answering a XP printer
> question? Why not try the XP groups? You'll get more help there.

If you read my post, You'd see that a postscript printer driver worked,
whereas the correct Cannon driver failed...

The worst art is that the Canon driver worked fine EXCTLY ONCE
and never again...

I'm posting to a Macintosh group because I abhor Windows and its
groups...
MIke
From: Kadin2048 on
On 2008-06-24, Michael Breslau <mbreslau(a)speakeasy.org> wrote:
> Windoze XP - wired ethernet - iMac 10.5.3. - Canon IP4500 printer
> Latest printer drivers from Canon on all computers
> Bonjour client from Apple on the PC
> [...]
> Question: Can anyone suggest a Postscript printer driver for the PC
> that is code compatible with the special features if the IP4500?
>
> thanks,
> Mike

If I understand your setup correctly, you have the Canon printer
(which is USB) hooked up to the Mac, and then you are using OS X's
Printer Sharing feature to let the Windows machine print to it.

/Assuming/ this is the case, it makes sense that the Postscript driver
works, while the normal USB printer driver doesn't. That's normal
behavior for *any* printer that's shared using OS X's Printer Sharing
feature.

The way Printer Sharing works is by having the Mac expose the shared
printer as a generic Postscript device on the network. This is done
because Postscript is sort of the linga franca of printing; it doesn't
matter what platform you're running, chances are it can produce
Postscript somehow. You don't need to worry about having or
installing drivers on the client machines this way -- you just use
either a generic PostScript driver, or Apple's LaserWriter (which was
a Postscript printer) driver.

WHen the Mac sharing the printer gets a Postscript document to print,
it then translates it into a format the printer can understand (using
the printer's proprietary driver or CUPS, usually) and sends it to be
printed.

So anyway, this was just a long-winded way of saying that I think the
behavior you're seeing is perfectly normal, and in other situations
really desirable (imagine if you had a printer that didn't have
Windows drivers, somehow).

As for using the advanced features of the printer, I'm not really sure
it'll be possible. I'm just not sure that Printer Sharing passes that
sort of stuff to the actual printer. At least I've never gotten it to
work.

The only driver I can think of that you might want to try, besides the
HP generic-Postscript one, is an Apple LaserWriter driver. I think
they're included by default in WinXP. YOu can try the regular LW,
LWII and LW Color, and see if any of them give you duplexing options.
(The only LW I'm aware of that did duplexing was the 8500 and I can't
remember whether it used its own driver or just the LW driver.) If
the Apple drivers don't let you do duplexing, I'd assume it's not
possible with that configuration.

Your next-best option might be to connect the printer directly to the
computer you need to do the most advanced-feature (i.e. duplex)
printing on, and then share it with the other one. OF course, that
involves using the Windows machine as a print server, which may be ugly.

Good luck,
Kadin.
From: Michael Breslau on
In article <_r6dne4GadS1j_7VnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d(a)comcast.com>,
Kadin2048 <Kadin(a)address.invalid> wrote:

> On 2008-06-24, Michael Breslau <mbreslau(a)speakeasy.org> wrote:
....>
> Good luck,
> Kadin.

Thank you very much - that was the information I hoped to get when I
posted my query.
MIke