Device application deployment (Visual studio 2005)
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From: etanef on 23 Sep 2005 22:34 Ginney, Thanks for your help. I was able to deploy my application directly to my Pocket PC device through Debug -> start deugging. i understand that Visual Studio 2005 then creates an msi file which invokes all the needed .CABs, first the .NT Compact Framework 2.0, then the 2 SQL CE ..CABs and finally the application exeutable and the database file. Can i isolate that file so that it can be downloded from later and deployed to a device? if yes, where is it located? Can I setup Visual studio so that it creates that installation file and saves it in a specific directory? You understand that this will save me a lot of headache car I would not have to worry about the different processor-specific versions Thanks a lot, Eric It would do -- E.T. "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > Erik, > > You can get .NET Compact Framework SP3 developer which you can redistrubtute > with your app here: > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=7bf313b9-71ed-4e15-ad6e-315dae6faf9f&DisplayLang=en > > Here's a newsgroup post that describes some deployment options: > http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.compactframework/browse_frm/thread/663941ca260e5d4a/b3cdd5bfc762f3bb?lnk=st&q=build+cab+compact+framework+group:*compactframework&rnum=1&hl=en#b3cdd5bfc762f3bb > > Or you can use something EZSetup: > http://www.pocketpcdn.com/articles/ezsetup.html > > Or you can do what I do and create a Rapi app on the desktop to push the > required CABs and data to the device. There is a Rapi class in the > Communication section of www.opennetcf.org. > > Ginny > > > "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:2C353F88-C175-452F-8A26-27498EB4D5C5(a)microsoft.com... > > Ginny, > > > > I guess we are getting there. > > I changed the target device to Pocket PC 2003, created a new CAB file, > > loaded it on my IPAQ hx2755 an I get tyhe following message: > > > > This application (ww.exe) requires a newer version of the Microsoft .NET > > Compact Framework than the version installed on this device. > > > > 1 - What do I find and load the new version? > > 2 - How do I include it with the exe in the CAB file? > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Eric > > -- > > E.T. > > > > > > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > > > >> Erik, > >> > >> Yes I think initally targetting WM2003SE would be a good approach, but be > >> sure to also test on WM5 too. > >> > >> Ginny > >> > >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:D1EB2A42-57FC-4EFF-9340-BAC266F3C287(a)microsoft.com... > >> > Ginny, > >> > > >> > You are getting it. I provided the list of references in my project so > >> > that > >> > you could tell me what functionality might to be compatible with > >> > Windows > >> > Mobile 2003. > >> > Shoudl I try to change the target device to Pocket PC 2003 to make it > >> > work? > >> > Is there anything else that I should consider? > >> > Thanks, > >> > Eric > >> > -- > >> > E.T. > >> > > >> > > >> > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > >> > > >> >> I assume that your app is requiring you to upgrade to WM 5 because you > >> >> are > >> >> using functionality that is only found in WM 5. Might this be the > >> >> case? > >> >> You > >> >> can't just add a reference to the Windows Mobile DLLs and get > >> >> Windows.Mobile > >> >> namespace support on older devices since parts of the WM5 platform are > >> >> required to make it work. You might be able to find work-alike classes > >> >> on > >> >> www.opennetcf.org however depending on which parts of WM5 you want to > >> >> use. > >> >> > >> >> You won't be able to use Pocket Access after November 7 either since > >> >> the > >> >> underlying technology (CeDB) that Pocket Access used internally has > >> >> changed. > >> >> That's why I suggested switching to SQL Mobile. But I'm still not sure > >> >> I > >> >> understand your scenario. If the Access data you're talking about is > >> >> on > >> >> the > >> >> desktop, then you could export the data to XML and either work with it > >> >> directly as XML on the device or parse it into a SQL Mobile database. > >> >> > >> >> If I've misunderstood what you want to do, just tell me and I'll try > >> >> to > >> >> come > >> >> up with a good suggestion. > >> >> > >> >> Ginny > >> >> > >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:1D22BAC5-5107-4FC5-8BC8-7B290D2AF685(a)microsoft.com... > >> >> > Ginny, > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks for your message. > >> >> > > >> >> > From what I understand I should be able to connect to an Access > >> >> > database > >> >> > on > >> >> > November 7, 2005. > >> >> > > >> >> > Why is my program requiring that I upgrade my PDA to Windows Mobile > >> >> > 5.0? > >> >> > That' s all I want to know. > >> >> > I though the references used in the new development kit would allow > >> >> > me > >> >> > to > >> >> > generate an executable to works on PDAs with Windows Mobile 2003. > >> >> > I do not want to keep two development environments. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks, > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > E.T. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Eric, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> If you switch from Access to SqlCe or SQL Mobile (when it's > >> >> >> released > >> >> >> Nov. > >> >> >> 7 > >> >> >> along with .NetCF version 2.0) for your database, that should run > >> >> >> on > >> >> >> both > >> >> >> platforms. If you've got XML files, though, I'm not sure why you're > >> >> >> using > >> >> >> Access though. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Ginny Caughey > >> >> >> ..NET Compact Framework MVP > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:31ABD1FC-277B-48C5-A552-0558D609B81E(a)microsoft.com... > >> >> >> > Dear developers, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I have developed an application using the new Windows Mobile 5.0 > >> >> >> > Kit. > >> >> >> > I am running into some issues when deploying it on my iPAQ hx2755 > >> >> >> > (Windows > >> >> >> > Mobile 2003 SE) because the system is asking me to upgrade the > >> >> >> > OS. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > My application is a simple one. It accesses a SQL Server database > >> >> >> > and > >> >> >> > lods > >> >> >> > the content of a few XML files. > >> >> >> > It use the following references: > >> >> >> > - System > >> >> >> > - System.Data > >> >> >> > - System.Data.SqlServerCe > >> >> >> > - System.Drawing > >> >> >> > - System.Windows.Forms > >> >> >> > - System.Xml > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I have tried unsuccesfuly to use a MS Access database but the > >> >> >> > Mobile > >> >> >> > 5.0 > >> >> >> > kit > >> >> >> > does not support System.Data.OleDB. It only handles > >> >> >> > System.Data.SqlClient > >> >> >> > or > >> >> >> > System.Data.SqlServerCe > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Please, what modification should I implemen to avoid a complete > >> >> >> > re-development using the Mobile 2003 toolkit? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I will certainly appreciate your help with this urgent matter. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Thanks, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Eric > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > E.T. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > >
From: Ginny Caughey [MVP] on 24 Sep 2005 18:15 You can use VS2005 to create a setup project if that's what you mean. -- Ginny Caughey ..NET Compact Framework MVP "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:6607FFB3-3F43-4EF1-830A-7E392CE185B7(a)microsoft.com... > Ginney, > > Thanks for your help. I was able to deploy my application directly to my > Pocket PC device through Debug -> start deugging. > i understand that Visual Studio 2005 then creates an msi file which > invokes > all the needed .CABs, first the .NT Compact Framework 2.0, then the 2 SQL > CE > .CABs and finally the application exeutable and the database file. > > Can i isolate that file so that it can be downloded from later and > deployed > to a device? if yes, where is it located? > Can I setup Visual studio so that it creates that installation file and > saves it in a specific directory? > > You understand that this will save me a lot of headache car I would not > have > to worry about the different processor-specific versions > > Thanks a lot, > > Eric > > It would do > -- > E.T. > > > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > >> Erik, >> >> You can get .NET Compact Framework SP3 developer which you can >> redistrubtute >> with your app here: >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=7bf313b9-71ed-4e15-ad6e-315dae6faf9f&DisplayLang=en >> >> Here's a newsgroup post that describes some deployment options: >> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.compactframework/browse_frm/thread/663941ca260e5d4a/b3cdd5bfc762f3bb?lnk=st&q=build+cab+compact+framework+group:*compactframework&rnum=1&hl=en#b3cdd5bfc762f3bb >> >> Or you can use something EZSetup: >> http://www.pocketpcdn.com/articles/ezsetup.html >> >> Or you can do what I do and create a Rapi app on the desktop to push the >> required CABs and data to the device. There is a Rapi class in the >> Communication section of www.opennetcf.org. >> >> Ginny >> >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:2C353F88-C175-452F-8A26-27498EB4D5C5(a)microsoft.com... >> > Ginny, >> > >> > I guess we are getting there. >> > I changed the target device to Pocket PC 2003, created a new CAB file, >> > loaded it on my IPAQ hx2755 an I get tyhe following message: >> > >> > This application (ww.exe) requires a newer version of the Microsoft >> > .NET >> > Compact Framework than the version installed on this device. >> > >> > 1 - What do I find and load the new version? >> > 2 - How do I include it with the exe in the CAB file? >> > >> > Thanks again, >> > >> > Eric >> > -- >> > E.T. >> > >> > >> > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: >> > >> >> Erik, >> >> >> >> Yes I think initally targetting WM2003SE would be a good approach, but >> >> be >> >> sure to also test on WM5 too. >> >> >> >> Ginny >> >> >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:D1EB2A42-57FC-4EFF-9340-BAC266F3C287(a)microsoft.com... >> >> > Ginny, >> >> > >> >> > You are getting it. I provided the list of references in my project >> >> > so >> >> > that >> >> > you could tell me what functionality might to be compatible with >> >> > Windows >> >> > Mobile 2003. >> >> > Shoudl I try to change the target device to Pocket PC 2003 to make >> >> > it >> >> > work? >> >> > Is there anything else that I should consider? >> >> > Thanks, >> >> > Eric >> >> > -- >> >> > E.T. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> I assume that your app is requiring you to upgrade to WM 5 because >> >> >> you >> >> >> are >> >> >> using functionality that is only found in WM 5. Might this be the >> >> >> case? >> >> >> You >> >> >> can't just add a reference to the Windows Mobile DLLs and get >> >> >> Windows.Mobile >> >> >> namespace support on older devices since parts of the WM5 platform >> >> >> are >> >> >> required to make it work. You might be able to find work-alike >> >> >> classes >> >> >> on >> >> >> www.opennetcf.org however depending on which parts of WM5 you want >> >> >> to >> >> >> use. >> >> >> >> >> >> You won't be able to use Pocket Access after November 7 either >> >> >> since >> >> >> the >> >> >> underlying technology (CeDB) that Pocket Access used internally has >> >> >> changed. >> >> >> That's why I suggested switching to SQL Mobile. But I'm still not >> >> >> sure >> >> >> I >> >> >> understand your scenario. If the Access data you're talking about >> >> >> is >> >> >> on >> >> >> the >> >> >> desktop, then you could export the data to XML and either work with >> >> >> it >> >> >> directly as XML on the device or parse it into a SQL Mobile >> >> >> database. >> >> >> >> >> >> If I've misunderstood what you want to do, just tell me and I'll >> >> >> try >> >> >> to >> >> >> come >> >> >> up with a good suggestion. >> >> >> >> >> >> Ginny >> >> >> >> >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:1D22BAC5-5107-4FC5-8BC8-7B290D2AF685(a)microsoft.com... >> >> >> > Ginny, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Thanks for your message. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > From what I understand I should be able to connect to an Access >> >> >> > database >> >> >> > on >> >> >> > November 7, 2005. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Why is my program requiring that I upgrade my PDA to Windows >> >> >> > Mobile >> >> >> > 5.0? >> >> >> > That' s all I want to know. >> >> >> > I though the references used in the new development kit would >> >> >> > allow >> >> >> > me >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > generate an executable to works on PDAs with Windows Mobile 2003. >> >> >> > I do not want to keep two development environments. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Thanks, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > E.T. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Eric, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> If you switch from Access to SqlCe or SQL Mobile (when it's >> >> >> >> released >> >> >> >> Nov. >> >> >> >> 7 >> >> >> >> along with .NetCF version 2.0) for your database, that should >> >> >> >> run >> >> >> >> on >> >> >> >> both >> >> >> >> platforms. If you've got XML files, though, I'm not sure why >> >> >> >> you're >> >> >> >> using >> >> >> >> Access though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ginny Caughey >> >> >> >> ..NET Compact Framework MVP >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> news:31ABD1FC-277B-48C5-A552-0558D609B81E(a)microsoft.com... >> >> >> >> > Dear developers, >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > I have developed an application using the new Windows Mobile >> >> >> >> > 5.0 >> >> >> >> > Kit. >> >> >> >> > I am running into some issues when deploying it on my iPAQ >> >> >> >> > hx2755 >> >> >> >> > (Windows >> >> >> >> > Mobile 2003 SE) because the system is asking me to upgrade the >> >> >> >> > OS. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > My application is a simple one. It accesses a SQL Server >> >> >> >> > database >> >> >> >> > and >> >> >> >> > lods >> >> >> >> > the content of a few XML files. >> >> >> >> > It use the following references: >> >> >> >> > - System >> >> >> >> > - System.Data >> >> >> >> > - System.Data.SqlServerCe >> >> >> >> > - System.Drawing >> >> >> >> > - System.Windows.Forms >> >> >> >> > - System.Xml >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > I have tried unsuccesfuly to use a MS Access database but the >> >> >> >> > Mobile >> >> >> >> > 5.0 >> >> >> >> > kit >> >> >> >> > does not support System.Data.OleDB. It only handles >> >> >> >> > System.Data.SqlClient >> >> >> >> > or >> >> >> >> > System.Data.SqlServerCe >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Please, what modification should I implemen to avoid a >> >> >> >> > complete >> >> >> >> > re-development using the Mobile 2003 toolkit? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > I will certainly appreciate your help with this urgent matter. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Thanks, >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Eric >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> > E.T. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
From: etanef on 24 Sep 2005 18:37 Ginny, I understand that there is a way to create a CAb project. I already did that, but I do not have the part which check the existence of the correct version of SQL CE or .NET Compact Framework 2.0 and install the necessary CAB files according to the architecture of the micrproprocessor. That is the most important part that is confusing and difficult to handle. Is there any project example that shows how to create an msi or CAB file for the download and install of a Pocket PC application from a web server directory? I already spend a great deal of time learning about the different versions of CAb files and I cannot create that generic installation file. I need to develop an install file that would work for all PDA architectures. The Debug function in VS2005 already has the capability to execute the installation on a device through activeSync. How come we cannot use a similar process to create an installation file for our own use? Thanks again, Eric -- E.T. "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > You can use VS2005 to create a setup project if that's what you mean. > > -- > > Ginny Caughey > ..NET Compact Framework MVP > > > "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:6607FFB3-3F43-4EF1-830A-7E392CE185B7(a)microsoft.com... > > Ginney, > > > > Thanks for your help. I was able to deploy my application directly to my > > Pocket PC device through Debug -> start deugging. > > i understand that Visual Studio 2005 then creates an msi file which > > invokes > > all the needed .CABs, first the .NT Compact Framework 2.0, then the 2 SQL > > CE > > .CABs and finally the application exeutable and the database file. > > > > Can i isolate that file so that it can be downloded from later and > > deployed > > to a device? if yes, where is it located? > > Can I setup Visual studio so that it creates that installation file and > > saves it in a specific directory? > > > > You understand that this will save me a lot of headache car I would not > > have > > to worry about the different processor-specific versions > > > > Thanks a lot, > > > > Eric > > > > It would do > > -- > > E.T. > > > > > > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > > > >> Erik, > >> > >> You can get .NET Compact Framework SP3 developer which you can > >> redistrubtute > >> with your app here: > >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=7bf313b9-71ed-4e15-ad6e-315dae6faf9f&DisplayLang=en > >> > >> Here's a newsgroup post that describes some deployment options: > >> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.compactframework/browse_frm/thread/663941ca260e5d4a/b3cdd5bfc762f3bb?lnk=st&q=build+cab+compact+framework+group:*compactframework&rnum=1&hl=en#b3cdd5bfc762f3bb > >> > >> Or you can use something EZSetup: > >> http://www.pocketpcdn.com/articles/ezsetup.html > >> > >> Or you can do what I do and create a Rapi app on the desktop to push the > >> required CABs and data to the device. There is a Rapi class in the > >> Communication section of www.opennetcf.org. > >> > >> Ginny > >> > >> > >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:2C353F88-C175-452F-8A26-27498EB4D5C5(a)microsoft.com... > >> > Ginny, > >> > > >> > I guess we are getting there. > >> > I changed the target device to Pocket PC 2003, created a new CAB file, > >> > loaded it on my IPAQ hx2755 an I get tyhe following message: > >> > > >> > This application (ww.exe) requires a newer version of the Microsoft > >> > .NET > >> > Compact Framework than the version installed on this device. > >> > > >> > 1 - What do I find and load the new version? > >> > 2 - How do I include it with the exe in the CAB file? > >> > > >> > Thanks again, > >> > > >> > Eric > >> > -- > >> > E.T. > >> > > >> > > >> > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > >> > > >> >> Erik, > >> >> > >> >> Yes I think initally targetting WM2003SE would be a good approach, but > >> >> be > >> >> sure to also test on WM5 too. > >> >> > >> >> Ginny > >> >> > >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:D1EB2A42-57FC-4EFF-9340-BAC266F3C287(a)microsoft.com... > >> >> > Ginny, > >> >> > > >> >> > You are getting it. I provided the list of references in my project > >> >> > so > >> >> > that > >> >> > you could tell me what functionality might to be compatible with > >> >> > Windows > >> >> > Mobile 2003. > >> >> > Shoudl I try to change the target device to Pocket PC 2003 to make > >> >> > it > >> >> > work? > >> >> > Is there anything else that I should consider? > >> >> > Thanks, > >> >> > Eric > >> >> > -- > >> >> > E.T. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> I assume that your app is requiring you to upgrade to WM 5 because > >> >> >> you > >> >> >> are > >> >> >> using functionality that is only found in WM 5. Might this be the > >> >> >> case? > >> >> >> You > >> >> >> can't just add a reference to the Windows Mobile DLLs and get > >> >> >> Windows.Mobile > >> >> >> namespace support on older devices since parts of the WM5 platform > >> >> >> are > >> >> >> required to make it work. You might be able to find work-alike > >> >> >> classes > >> >> >> on > >> >> >> www.opennetcf.org however depending on which parts of WM5 you want > >> >> >> to > >> >> >> use. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> You won't be able to use Pocket Access after November 7 either > >> >> >> since > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> underlying technology (CeDB) that Pocket Access used internally has > >> >> >> changed. > >> >> >> That's why I suggested switching to SQL Mobile. But I'm still not > >> >> >> sure > >> >> >> I > >> >> >> understand your scenario. If the Access data you're talking about > >> >> >> is > >> >> >> on > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> desktop, then you could export the data to XML and either work with > >> >> >> it > >> >> >> directly as XML on the device or parse it into a SQL Mobile > >> >> >> database. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> If I've misunderstood what you want to do, just tell me and I'll > >> >> >> try > >> >> >> to > >> >> >> come > >> >> >> up with a good suggestion. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Ginny > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:1D22BAC5-5107-4FC5-8BC8-7B290D2AF685(a)microsoft.com... > >> >> >> > Ginny, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Thanks for your message. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > From what I understand I should be able to connect to an Access > >> >> >> > database > >> >> >> > on > >> >> >> > November 7, 2005. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Why is my program requiring that I upgrade my PDA to Windows > >> >> >> > Mobile > >> >> >> > 5.0? > >> >> >> > That' s all I want to know. > >> >> >> > I though the references used in the new development kit would > >> >> >> > allow > >> >> >> > me > >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> > generate an executable to works on PDAs with Windows Mobile 2003. > >> >> >> > I do not want to keep two development environments. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Thanks, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > E.T. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Eric, > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> If you switch from Access to SqlCe or SQL Mobile (when it's > >> >> >> >> released > >> >> >> >> Nov. > >> >> >> >> 7 > >> >> >> >> along with .NetCF version 2.0) for your database, that should > >> >> >> >> run > >> >> >> >> on > >> >> >> >> both > >> >> >> >> platforms. If you've got XML files, though, I'm not sure why > >> >> >> >> you're > >> >> >> >> using > >> >> >> >> Access though. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Ginny Caughey > >> >> >> >> ..NET Compact Framework MVP > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> >> news:31ABD1FC-277B-48C5-A552-0558D609B81E(a)microsoft.com... > >> >> >> >> > Dear developers, > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > I have developed an application using the new Windows Mobile > >> >> >> >> > 5.0 > >> >> >> >> > Kit. > >> >> >> >> > I am running into some issues when deploying it on my iPAQ > >> >> >> >> > hx2755 > >> >> >> >> > (Windows > >> >> >> >> > Mobile 2003 SE) because the system is asking me to upgrade the > >> >> >> >> > OS. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > My application is a simple one. It accesses a SQL Server > >> >> >> >> > database > >> >> >> >> > and > >> >> >> >> > lods > >> >> >> >> > the content of a few XML files. > >> >> >> >> > It use the following references: > >> >> >> >> > - System > >> >> >> >> > - System.Data > >> >> >> >> > - System.Data.SqlServerCe > >> >> >> >> > - System.Drawing > >> >> >> >> > - System.Windows.Forms > >> >> >> >> > - System.Xml > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > I have tried unsuccesfuly to use a MS Access database but the > >> >> >> >> > Mobile > >> >> >> >> > 5.0 > >> >> >> >> > kit > >> >> >> >> > does not support System.Data.OleDB. It only handles > >> >> >> >> > System.Data.SqlClient > >> >> >> >> > or > >> >> >> >> > System.Data.SqlServerCe > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Please, what modification should I implemen to avoid a > >> >> >> >> > complete > >> >> >> >> > re-development using the Mobile 2003 toolkit? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > I will certainly appreciate your help with this urgent matter. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Thanks, > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Eric > >> >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> >> > E.T. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > >
From: Ginny Caughey [MVP] on 25 Sep 2005 08:45 I'm not aware of a sample that does what you want, but I agree that would be a good thing. Since you're using .NetCFv2, are you using SQL Mobile or SQL CE. (I'd recommend SQL Mobile.) -- Ginny Caughey ..NET Compact Framework MVP "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C3BB7E30-0C50-4C7C-BFEA-F1A9B4E06DCF(a)microsoft.com... > Ginny, > > I understand that there is a way to create a CAb project. > I already did that, but I do not have the part which check the existence > of > the correct version of SQL CE or .NET Compact Framework 2.0 and install > the > necessary CAB files according to the architecture of the micrproprocessor. > That is the most important part that is confusing and difficult to handle. > > Is there any project example that shows how to create an msi or CAB file > for > the download and install of a Pocket PC application from a web server > directory? > > I already spend a great deal of time learning about the different versions > of CAb files and I cannot create that generic installation file. > I need to develop an install file that would work for all PDA > architectures. > > The Debug function in VS2005 already has the capability to execute the > installation on a device through activeSync. How come we cannot use a > similar > process to create an installation file for our own use? > > Thanks again, > > Eric > > -- > E.T. > > > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > >> You can use VS2005 to create a setup project if that's what you mean. >> >> -- >> >> Ginny Caughey >> ..NET Compact Framework MVP >> >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:6607FFB3-3F43-4EF1-830A-7E392CE185B7(a)microsoft.com... >> > Ginney, >> > >> > Thanks for your help. I was able to deploy my application directly to >> > my >> > Pocket PC device through Debug -> start deugging. >> > i understand that Visual Studio 2005 then creates an msi file which >> > invokes >> > all the needed .CABs, first the .NT Compact Framework 2.0, then the 2 >> > SQL >> > CE >> > .CABs and finally the application exeutable and the database file. >> > >> > Can i isolate that file so that it can be downloded from later and >> > deployed >> > to a device? if yes, where is it located? >> > Can I setup Visual studio so that it creates that installation file and >> > saves it in a specific directory? >> > >> > You understand that this will save me a lot of headache car I would not >> > have >> > to worry about the different processor-specific versions >> > >> > Thanks a lot, >> > >> > Eric >> > >> > It would do >> > -- >> > E.T. >> > >> > >> > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: >> > >> >> Erik, >> >> >> >> You can get .NET Compact Framework SP3 developer which you can >> >> redistrubtute >> >> with your app here: >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=7bf313b9-71ed-4e15-ad6e-315dae6faf9f&DisplayLang=en >> >> >> >> Here's a newsgroup post that describes some deployment options: >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.compactframework/browse_frm/thread/663941ca260e5d4a/b3cdd5bfc762f3bb?lnk=st&q=build+cab+compact+framework+group:*compactframework&rnum=1&hl=en#b3cdd5bfc762f3bb >> >> >> >> Or you can use something EZSetup: >> >> http://www.pocketpcdn.com/articles/ezsetup.html >> >> >> >> Or you can do what I do and create a Rapi app on the desktop to push >> >> the >> >> required CABs and data to the device. There is a Rapi class in the >> >> Communication section of www.opennetcf.org. >> >> >> >> Ginny >> >> >> >> >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:2C353F88-C175-452F-8A26-27498EB4D5C5(a)microsoft.com... >> >> > Ginny, >> >> > >> >> > I guess we are getting there. >> >> > I changed the target device to Pocket PC 2003, created a new CAB >> >> > file, >> >> > loaded it on my IPAQ hx2755 an I get tyhe following message: >> >> > >> >> > This application (ww.exe) requires a newer version of the Microsoft >> >> > .NET >> >> > Compact Framework than the version installed on this device. >> >> > >> >> > 1 - What do I find and load the new version? >> >> > 2 - How do I include it with the exe in the CAB file? >> >> > >> >> > Thanks again, >> >> > >> >> > Eric >> >> > -- >> >> > E.T. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Erik, >> >> >> >> >> >> Yes I think initally targetting WM2003SE would be a good approach, >> >> >> but >> >> >> be >> >> >> sure to also test on WM5 too. >> >> >> >> >> >> Ginny >> >> >> >> >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:D1EB2A42-57FC-4EFF-9340-BAC266F3C287(a)microsoft.com... >> >> >> > Ginny, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > You are getting it. I provided the list of references in my >> >> >> > project >> >> >> > so >> >> >> > that >> >> >> > you could tell me what functionality might to be compatible with >> >> >> > Windows >> >> >> > Mobile 2003. >> >> >> > Shoudl I try to change the target device to Pocket PC 2003 to >> >> >> > make >> >> >> > it >> >> >> > work? >> >> >> > Is there anything else that I should consider? >> >> >> > Thanks, >> >> >> > Eric >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > E.T. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I assume that your app is requiring you to upgrade to WM 5 >> >> >> >> because >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> are >> >> >> >> using functionality that is only found in WM 5. Might this be >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> case? >> >> >> >> You >> >> >> >> can't just add a reference to the Windows Mobile DLLs and get >> >> >> >> Windows.Mobile >> >> >> >> namespace support on older devices since parts of the WM5 >> >> >> >> platform >> >> >> >> are >> >> >> >> required to make it work. You might be able to find work-alike >> >> >> >> classes >> >> >> >> on >> >> >> >> www.opennetcf.org however depending on which parts of WM5 you >> >> >> >> want >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> use. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You won't be able to use Pocket Access after November 7 either >> >> >> >> since >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> underlying technology (CeDB) that Pocket Access used internally >> >> >> >> has >> >> >> >> changed. >> >> >> >> That's why I suggested switching to SQL Mobile. But I'm still >> >> >> >> not >> >> >> >> sure >> >> >> >> I >> >> >> >> understand your scenario. If the Access data you're talking >> >> >> >> about >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> on >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> desktop, then you could export the data to XML and either work >> >> >> >> with >> >> >> >> it >> >> >> >> directly as XML on the device or parse it into a SQL Mobile >> >> >> >> database. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> If I've misunderstood what you want to do, just tell me and I'll >> >> >> >> try >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> come >> >> >> >> up with a good suggestion. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ginny >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> news:1D22BAC5-5107-4FC5-8BC8-7B290D2AF685(a)microsoft.com... >> >> >> >> > Ginny, >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Thanks for your message. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > From what I understand I should be able to connect to an >> >> >> >> > Access >> >> >> >> > database >> >> >> >> > on >> >> >> >> > November 7, 2005. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Why is my program requiring that I upgrade my PDA to Windows >> >> >> >> > Mobile >> >> >> >> > 5.0? >> >> >> >> > That' s all I want to know. >> >> >> >> > I though the references used in the new development kit would >> >> >> >> > allow >> >> >> >> > me >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> > generate an executable to works on PDAs with Windows Mobile >> >> >> >> > 2003. >> >> >> >> > I do not want to keep two development environments. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Thanks, >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> > E.T. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Eric, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> If you switch from Access to SqlCe or SQL Mobile (when it's >> >> >> >> >> released >> >> >> >> >> Nov. >> >> >> >> >> 7 >> >> >> >> >> along with .NetCF version 2.0) for your database, that should >> >> >> >> >> run >> >> >> >> >> on >> >> >> >> >> both >> >> >> >> >> platforms. If you've got XML files, though, I'm not sure why >> >> >> >> >> you're >> >> >> >> >> using >> >> >> >> >> Access though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ginny Caughey >> >> >> >> >> ..NET Compact Framework MVP >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> >> news:31ABD1FC-277B-48C5-A552-0558D609B81E(a)microsoft.com... >> >> >> >> >> > Dear developers, >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > I have developed an application using the new Windows >> >> >> >> >> > Mobile >> >> >> >> >> > 5.0 >> >> >> >> >> > Kit. >> >> >> >> >> > I am running into some issues when deploying it on my iPAQ >> >> >> >> >> > hx2755 >> >> >> >> >> > (Windows >> >> >> >> >> > Mobile 2003 SE) because the system is asking me to upgrade >> >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> >> > OS. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > My application is a simple one. It accesses a SQL Server >> >> >> >> >> > database >> >> >> >> >> > and >> >> >> >> >> > lods >> >> >> >> >> > the content of a few XML files. >> >> >> >> >> > It use the following references: >> >> >> >> >> > - System >> >> >> >> >> > - System.Data >> >> >> >> >> > - System.Data.SqlServerCe >> >> >> >> >> > - System.Drawing >> >> >> >> >> > - System.Windows.Forms >> >> >> >> >> > - System.Xml >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > I have tried unsuccesfuly to use a MS Access database but >> >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> >> > Mobile >> >> >> >> >> > 5.0 >> >> >> >> >> > kit >> >> >> >> >> > does not support System.Data.OleDB. It only handles >> >> >> >> >> > System.Data.SqlClient >> >> >> >> >> > or >> >> >> >> >> > System.Data.SqlServerCe >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Please, what modification should I implemen to avoid a >> >> >> >> >> > complete >> >> >> >> >> > re-development using the Mobile 2003 toolkit? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > I will certainly appreciate your help with this urgent >> >> >> >> >> > matter. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks, >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Eric >> >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> >> > E.T. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
From: etanef on 25 Sep 2005 12:16 Ginny, I am finally using SQL Mobile. Could you please go around the folks at Microsoft and suggest some improvement to the deployment function. I guess if you are able to deploy the application directly to the device with all the checks being performed by the deployment function, how come you are not able to create an installation module that could sit on a web server and perform the same checks and updates when somebody loads it on a PDA? It is a nightware to deal with specific .CABs for each microprocessor architecture. This should not be a concern for the developer, especially in a OneClick philosophy. I would apprecite if you could help me with a better solution. I am working on a critical prototype and I need to show that deployment is one of the strengths of .NET even on mobile devoces Thanks, Eric -- E.T. "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > I'm not aware of a sample that does what you want, but I agree that would be > a good thing. Since you're using .NetCFv2, are you using SQL Mobile or SQL > CE. (I'd recommend SQL Mobile.) > -- > > Ginny Caughey > ..NET Compact Framework MVP > > > "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:C3BB7E30-0C50-4C7C-BFEA-F1A9B4E06DCF(a)microsoft.com... > > Ginny, > > > > I understand that there is a way to create a CAb project. > > I already did that, but I do not have the part which check the existence > > of > > the correct version of SQL CE or .NET Compact Framework 2.0 and install > > the > > necessary CAB files according to the architecture of the micrproprocessor. > > That is the most important part that is confusing and difficult to handle. > > > > Is there any project example that shows how to create an msi or CAB file > > for > > the download and install of a Pocket PC application from a web server > > directory? > > > > I already spend a great deal of time learning about the different versions > > of CAb files and I cannot create that generic installation file. > > I need to develop an install file that would work for all PDA > > architectures. > > > > The Debug function in VS2005 already has the capability to execute the > > installation on a device through activeSync. How come we cannot use a > > similar > > process to create an installation file for our own use? > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Eric > > > > -- > > E.T. > > > > > > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > > > >> You can use VS2005 to create a setup project if that's what you mean. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Ginny Caughey > >> ..NET Compact Framework MVP > >> > >> > >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:6607FFB3-3F43-4EF1-830A-7E392CE185B7(a)microsoft.com... > >> > Ginney, > >> > > >> > Thanks for your help. I was able to deploy my application directly to > >> > my > >> > Pocket PC device through Debug -> start deugging. > >> > i understand that Visual Studio 2005 then creates an msi file which > >> > invokes > >> > all the needed .CABs, first the .NT Compact Framework 2.0, then the 2 > >> > SQL > >> > CE > >> > .CABs and finally the application exeutable and the database file. > >> > > >> > Can i isolate that file so that it can be downloded from later and > >> > deployed > >> > to a device? if yes, where is it located? > >> > Can I setup Visual studio so that it creates that installation file and > >> > saves it in a specific directory? > >> > > >> > You understand that this will save me a lot of headache car I would not > >> > have > >> > to worry about the different processor-specific versions > >> > > >> > Thanks a lot, > >> > > >> > Eric > >> > > >> > It would do > >> > -- > >> > E.T. > >> > > >> > > >> > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > >> > > >> >> Erik, > >> >> > >> >> You can get .NET Compact Framework SP3 developer which you can > >> >> redistrubtute > >> >> with your app here: > >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=7bf313b9-71ed-4e15-ad6e-315dae6faf9f&DisplayLang=en > >> >> > >> >> Here's a newsgroup post that describes some deployment options: > >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.compactframework/browse_frm/thread/663941ca260e5d4a/b3cdd5bfc762f3bb?lnk=st&q=build+cab+compact+framework+group:*compactframework&rnum=1&hl=en#b3cdd5bfc762f3bb > >> >> > >> >> Or you can use something EZSetup: > >> >> http://www.pocketpcdn.com/articles/ezsetup.html > >> >> > >> >> Or you can do what I do and create a Rapi app on the desktop to push > >> >> the > >> >> required CABs and data to the device. There is a Rapi class in the > >> >> Communication section of www.opennetcf.org. > >> >> > >> >> Ginny > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:2C353F88-C175-452F-8A26-27498EB4D5C5(a)microsoft.com... > >> >> > Ginny, > >> >> > > >> >> > I guess we are getting there. > >> >> > I changed the target device to Pocket PC 2003, created a new CAB > >> >> > file, > >> >> > loaded it on my IPAQ hx2755 an I get tyhe following message: > >> >> > > >> >> > This application (ww.exe) requires a newer version of the Microsoft > >> >> > .NET > >> >> > Compact Framework than the version installed on this device. > >> >> > > >> >> > 1 - What do I find and load the new version? > >> >> > 2 - How do I include it with the exe in the CAB file? > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks again, > >> >> > > >> >> > Eric > >> >> > -- > >> >> > E.T. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Erik, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Yes I think initally targetting WM2003SE would be a good approach, > >> >> >> but > >> >> >> be > >> >> >> sure to also test on WM5 too. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Ginny > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:D1EB2A42-57FC-4EFF-9340-BAC266F3C287(a)microsoft.com... > >> >> >> > Ginny, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > You are getting it. I provided the list of references in my > >> >> >> > project > >> >> >> > so > >> >> >> > that > >> >> >> > you could tell me what functionality might to be compatible with > >> >> >> > Windows > >> >> >> > Mobile 2003. > >> >> >> > Shoudl I try to change the target device to Pocket PC 2003 to > >> >> >> > make > >> >> >> > it > >> >> >> > work? > >> >> >> > Is there anything else that I should consider? > >> >> >> > Thanks, > >> >> >> > Eric > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > E.T. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I assume that your app is requiring you to upgrade to WM 5 > >> >> >> >> because > >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> are > >> >> >> >> using functionality that is only found in WM 5. Might this be > >> >> >> >> the > >> >> >> >> case? > >> >> >> >> You > >> >> >> >> can't just add a reference to the Windows Mobile DLLs and get > >> >> >> >> Windows.Mobile > >> >> >> >> namespace support on older devices since parts of the WM5 > >> >> >> >> platform > >> >> >> >> are > >> >> >> >> required to make it work. You might be able to find work-alike > >> >> >> >> classes > >> >> >> >> on > >> >> >> >> www.opennetcf.org however depending on which parts of WM5 you > >> >> >> >> want > >> >> >> >> to > >> >> >> >> use. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> You won't be able to use Pocket Access after November 7 either > >> >> >> >> since > >> >> >> >> the > >> >> >> >> underlying technology (CeDB) that Pocket Access used internally > >> >> >> >> has > >> >> >> >> changed. > >> >> >> >> That's why I suggested switching to SQL Mobile. But I'm still > >> >> >> >> not > >> >> >> >> sure > >> >> >> >> I > >> >> >> >> understand your scenario. If the Access data you're talking > >> >> >> >> about > >> >> >> >> is > >> >> >> >> on > >> >> >> >> the > >> >> >> >> desktop, then you could export the data to XML and either work > >> >> >> >> with > >> >> >> >> it > >> >> >> >> directly as XML on the device or parse it into a SQL Mobile > >> >> >> >> database. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> If I've misunderstood what you want to do, just tell me and I'll > >> >> >> >> try > >> >> >> >> to > >> >> >> >> come > >> >> >> >> up with a good suggestion. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Ginny > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> >> news:1D22BAC5-5107-4FC5-8BC8-7B290D2AF685(a)microsoft.com... > >> >> >> >> > Ginny, > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Thanks for your message. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > From what I understand I should be able to connect to an > >> >> >> >> > Access > >> >> >> >> > database > >> >> >> >> > on > >> >> >> >> > November 7, 2005. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Why is my program requiring that I upgrade my PDA to Windows > >> >> >> >> > Mobile > >> >> >> >> > 5.0? > >> >> >> >> > That' s all I want to know. > >> >> >> >> > I though the references used in the new development kit would > >> >> >> >> > allow > >> >> >> >> > me > >> >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> >> > generate an executable to works on PDAs with Windows Mobile > >> >> >> >> > 2003. > >> >> >> >> > I do not want to keep two development environments. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Thanks, > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> >> > E.T. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Eric, > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> If you switch from Access to SqlCe or SQL Mobile (when it's > >> >> >> >> >> released > >> >> >> >> >> Nov. > >> >> >> >> >> 7 > >> >> >> >> >> along with .NetCF version 2.0) for your database, that should > >> >> >> >> >> run > >> >> >> >> >> on > >> >> >> >> >> both > >> >> >> >> >> platforms. If you've got XML files, though, I'm not sure why > >> >> >> >> >> you're > >> >> >> >> >> using > >> >> >> >> >> Access though. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Ginny Caughey > >> >> >> >> >> ..NET Compact Framework MVP > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> "etanef" <etanef(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> >> >> news:31ABD1FC-277B-48C5-A552-0558D609B81E(a)microsoft.com... > >> >> >> >> >> > Dear developers, > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > I have developed an application using the new Windows > >> >> >> >> >> > Mobile > >> >> >> >> >> > 5.0 > >> >> >> >> >> > Kit. > >> >> >> >> >> > I am running into some issues when deploying it on my iPAQ > >> >> >> >> >> > hx2755 > >> >> >> >> >> > (Windows > >> >> >> >> >> > Mobile 2003 SE) because the system is asking me to upgrade > >> >> >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> >> >> > OS. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > My application is a simple one. It accesses a SQL Server > >> >> >> >> >> > database > >> >> >> >> >> > and > >> >> >> >> >> > lods > >> >> >> >> >> > the content of a few XML files. > >> >> >> >> >> > It use the following references: > >> >> >> >> >> > - System > >> >> >> >> >> > - System.Data > >> >> >> >> >> > - System.Data.SqlServerCe > >> >> >> >> >> > - System.Drawing > >> >> >> >> >> > - System.Windows.Forms > >> >> >> >> >> > - System.Xml > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > I have tried unsuccesfuly to use a MS Access database but > >> >> >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> >> >> > Mobile > >> >> >> >> >> > 5.0
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