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From: Jack Ruetty on 26 Apr 2005 19:01
Having kind of a weird problem and not sure of the solution. Recently I all
of a sudden had trouble turning on my computer (Dimension 8300 XP SP2). Had
to hold the power button in for as much as twenty or thirty seconds before I
could power up. Tried some different things and found that plugging into a
different port on my USP seemed to fix the problem. Two days later the
problem started up again. Took the computer off the UPS and plugged
directly into a power strip. This seemed to fix the problem and then two
days later the same problem reoccurred. I am at a loss as to what is going
on. What is most confusing is how when I plug the computer into a different
power outlet everything seems to be fine for a couple days and then the same
powerup problems resume. I have not made any changes to my system, have run
adaware and done a complete virus scan of my system. Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Jack



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Jack Ruetty
jruetty(a)columbus.rr.com


From: S.Lewis on 26 Apr 2005 19:17

"Jack Ruetty" <jruetty(a)columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:cLzbe.685$Eg.315(a)tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Having kind of a weird problem and not sure of the solution. Recently I
> all of a sudden had trouble turning on my computer (Dimension 8300 XP
> SP2). Had to hold the power button in for as much as twenty or thirty
> seconds before I could power up. Tried some different things and found
> that plugging into a different port on my USP seemed to fix the problem.
> Two days later the problem started up again. Took the computer off the
> UPS and plugged directly into a power strip. This seemed to fix the
> problem and then two days later the same problem reoccurred. I am at a
> loss as to what is going on. What is most confusing is how when I plug
> the computer into a different power outlet everything seems to be fine for
> a couple days and then the same powerup problems resume. I have not made
> any changes to my system, have run adaware and done a complete virus scan
> of my system. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> --
> Jack Ruetty
> jruetty(a)columbus.rr.com
>


Jack,

I see your UPS mentioned a couple of times. Have you tried the unit
directly plugged into the wall outlet, and if so, same thing?


Stew


From: Vivriel on 26 Apr 2005 22:08
"Jack Ruetty" <jruetty(a)columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:cLzbe.685$Eg.315(a)tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Having kind of a weird problem and not sure of the solution. Recently I
> all of a sudden had trouble turning on my computer (Dimension 8300 XP
> SP2). Had to hold the power button in for as much as twenty or thirty
> seconds before I could power up. Tried some different things and found
> that plugging into a different port on my USP seemed to fix the problem.
> Two days later the problem started up again. Took the computer off the
> UPS and plugged directly into a power strip. This seemed to fix the
> problem and then two days later the same problem reoccurred. I am at a
> loss as to what is going on. What is most confusing is how when I plug
> the computer into a different power outlet everything seems to be fine for
> a couple days and then the same powerup problems resume. I have not made
> any changes to my system, have run adaware and done a complete virus scan
> of my system. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

My 8300 showed the same symptom (minus UPS) for a couple of months and then
completely failed to power up after I left it shut down for 2 weeks while on
vacation. Dell replaced the power supply unit and all's well now.

So it could be an impending power supply failure. Dunno why plugging into
different outlets would help, as I don't have UPS here.


From: pengulin on 27 Apr 2005 00:55
I agree it's probably the PS. The only commonality I can see where plugging
it into another outlet might have "helped" is that by unplugging it from one
power source to plug it into another, you interrupted constant power to the
power supply. What the actual problem with the power supply may be and why
interrupting power seems to help, I do not know. This sounds like a question
for our resident authority and my new best buddy, w_tom. So... w_tom (if
your trolling this ng)... what say you?


From: User N on 27 Apr 2005 01:18

"Jack Ruetty" <jruetty(a)columbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:cLzbe.685$Eg.315(a)tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Having kind of a weird problem and not sure of the solution. Recently I all
> of a sudden had trouble turning on my computer (Dimension 8300 XP SP2). Had
> to hold the power button in for as much as twenty or thirty seconds before I
> could power up. [] What is most confusing is how when I plug the computer
> into a different power outlet everything seems to be fine for a couple days and
> then the same powerup problems resume. []

I believe at least some PC power supplies contain protection circuits
which, upon detecting a fault, latch the PS into a shutdown state and
in order to reset the PS you have to unplug it for a few moments and
then plug it back in. I think I've also read that some PSs can be reset
by holding the power button in for a certain amount of time. I'm not
familiar with the 8300 and its PS, but what you describe sounds
consistent with that. At least if we assume that it wasn't the different
outlets that solved the problem, but rather the simple act of unplugging
it and plugging it back in.

Have you been having any other problems with your system? Has
it been operating normally and shutting down properly? Have there
been any HW changes recently... upgrades or additions? Did you
move the system and connect it to a different circuit? Any lights
flickering or other signs that the computer is on a dirty circuit?

When you press the power button, are there *any* signs of life?
Do fans start to spin up, do any front or back lights come on...
even momentarily? Or does it just sit there as though it were
unplugged?
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