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From: James Bechdel on 5 May 2008 11:30 At the top of my doc window I have about 10 px gray space going across top. I don't have any tables inserted because that options is not active? jbechdel(a)comcast.net
From: Murray *ACE* on 5 May 2008 12:02 Have you managed your page margin in the page's CSS? -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Adobe Community Expert (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources ================== "James Bechdel" <webforumsuser(a)macromedia.com> wrote in message news:fvn96k$msr$1(a)forums.macromedia.com... > At the top of my doc window I have about 10 px gray space going across > top. I don't have any tables inserted because that options is not active? > jbechdel(a)comcast.net
From: James Bechdel on 5 May 2008 13:22 No I haven?t but I got rid of the gray area by going to View/TableMode/Layout Mode. And that got me my import tables back. So do still need to ?manage my page margin? Yet? Thank You
From: Murray *ACE* on 5 May 2008 13:30 > So do still need to ?manage my page margin? Yet? You always need to manage them, otherwise you get the defaults, which aren't the same on all the browsers. body { margin:0; padding:0; } is a good start on this. > View/TableMode/Layout Mode Erase that option from your mind. Thankfully, Adobe is also erasing it from the next DW. Never use Layout mode. In my opinion, there are three serious problems with Layout Mode - 1. Perhaps most importantly, it sits between you and *real* HTML tables, and fools you into believing that concepts like "layout cell" and "autostretch" really mean something. They do not. As long as you use Layout Mode, you'll never learn one of the most important things for new web developers - how to build solid and reliable tables. 2. Actually, #1 wouldn't be *so* bad, except that the code that is written by Layout Mode is really poor code. For example, a layout table contains MANY empty rows of cells. This can contribute to a table's instability. In addition, if your initial positioning of the table's cells is a bit complex, Layout Mode will throw in col- and rowspans aplenty as it merges and splits cells willy-nillly to achieve the pixel-perfect layout you have specified. Again, this is an extremely poor method for building stable tables, because it allows changes in one tiny cell's shape (i.e, dimensions) to ripple through the rest of the table, usually with unexpected and sometimes disastrous consequences. This is one of the primary reasons for the final result's fragility - read this - http://apptools.com/rants/spans.php 3. The UI for Layout Mode is beyond confusing - many options that you might want to use are inaccessible, e.g., inserting another table, or layer onto the page. I can understand the new user's desire to use this tool to make their life easier, but the cost is just too heavy in my opinion. To make good tables, keep it simple. Put a table on the page, and begin to load your content. If you would want a different table layout, instead of merging or splitting cells, consider stacking tables or nesting simple tables instead, respectively. And above all, do not try to build the whole page with a single table! Luckily, Adobe understands the problems created for the unsuspecting user who falls into this trap, and has elected to remove this feature altogether from the next version of DW. The time is right for you to begin working with tables properly! To read more about this approach, visit the DW FAQ link in my sig, and run through the table tutorials. -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Adobe Community Expert (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources ================== "James Bechdel" <webforumsuser(a)macromedia.com> wrote in message news:fvnfop$96$1(a)forums.macromedia.com... > No I haven?t but I got rid of the gray area by going to > View/TableMode/Layout Mode. And that got me my import tables back. So do > still need to ?manage my page margin? Yet? > Thank You
From: James Bechdel on 5 May 2008 14:17
Thanks for the tips, I'll press on and may be asking more questions. This tiny job I have now is just 2 pages for a car show. I remember in the old days every one said don't make your pages any larger than the smallest monitor, but now I wonder what size is a safe size? |