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From: Skywise on 10 Jul 2008 00:01
George Orwell <nobody(a)mixmaster.it> wrote in
news:9bcf2fd60050d55c45d62ac035fa193b(a)mixmaster.it:

> And since their SERVERS are in the Netherlands, all activities
> through the servers are ONLY subject to DUTCH laws, so
> anything through the severs are NOT SUBJECT to Chinese laws
> (for people like me that use it from China) and NOT SUBJECT
> to United States laws (for anyone in the U.S. using it from
> work). In short, the OWNERS of this set of servers are
> NOT SUBJECT to prosecution in either the United States or
> China.

Another terribly foolish statement. One is ALWAYS subject to
the laws of the land in which they are at the moment. If you
do something that is illegal in the country you commited the
act in, it matters not if the servers are elsewhere.

So, you know nothing about cryptography, nor the law.

Brian
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From: George Orwell on 10 Jul 2008 10:14

"Skywise" <into(a)oblivion.nothing.com> wrote in message news:9Qfdk.1610$Zm1.1303(a)newsfe27.ams2...
> George Orwell <nobody(a)mixmaster.it> wrote in


> Another terribly foolish statement. One is ALWAYS subject to
> the laws of the land in which they are at the moment. If you
> do something that is illegal in the country you commited the
> act in, it matters not if the servers are elsewhere.

Actually, what I what was referring to is not the USERS,
but the OWNERS of the sites. If someone in China uses their
proxies, the OWNERS of the anonymity service are NOT SUBJECT
to prosecution in China, if a suscriber, while in China uses their
service to bypass governmetn censorship.

Just like if someone uses that proxy to surf prohibited sites
from work, the OWNERS of the servers, which are hosted at
a server farm in Holland, are NOT SUBJECT to prosecution
in the United States, if an American worker just happens
to use their site to bypass company firewalls. While the
USER can be held liable, under U.S. laws, the OWNER of the
site is NOT SUBJECT to ANY legal action in America, becuase
the servers are in HOLLAND, hence the OWNERS of this
anonymity service are ONLY subject to the laws of
HOLLAND.

That is what I was trying to say, that the OWNERS
of this anonymity service are NOT SUBJECT to
prosection ANYHWRES outside of Holland.

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reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an
di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system
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