From: tlmfru on
The EAN is actually an upgrade of the current 12-digit UPC scheme. The
ISBN13 is a way of using the current ISBN as a UPC. I thought you were
joking when you spoke of "Bookland" but it's true! 979 will be used as a
prefix "when the current numbers run out", whatever that means, and 977 is
for periodicals presently under the ISSN.

PL


From: HeyBub on
tlmfru wrote:
> The EAN is actually an upgrade of the current 12-digit UPC scheme.
> The ISBN13 is a way of using the current ISBN as a UPC. I thought
> you were joking when you spoke of "Bookland" but it's true! 979 will
> be used as a prefix "when the current numbers run out", whatever that
> means, and 977 is for periodicals presently under the ISSN.

"Joking?" The book business is rapidly approaching 1950. We don't joke about
things like that. There is only ONE major publisher in the United States
that owns a printing press (Doubleday for its Anchor Bible series). There
are over 3,000 trim sizes for hardbound books. Book jackets are applied by
hand. Unsold mass-market books are destroyed in situ because it's cheaper to
burn 'em than to print another.

See if you can lay hands on "Cyberbooks" by Ben Bovi - a thinly disguised
spoof of the book business. In the book you meet the Chinese mathematician
who discovers that under rare, but nevertheless clearly defined,
circumstances, the formula by which royalty payments are made can actually
be understood and therefore must be changed! I got a kick out of the
publisher that put robotic picking machines in their warehouse to gather
book cartons off the shelves. Due to some misunderstanding, the robots could
only reach to the fifth shelf but the warehouse had racks of seven shelves.
The company then hired midgets to ride around atop the picking machines to
access the higher shelves. Of course the midgets were constantly falling off
the robots and getting run over...

Or the accounting consultant who computd that by changing the glue used in
perfect bindings the company could save five cents per hundredweight.
Unfortunately, this new glue formulation decomposed in shipment causing not
only the pages to become loose but the vapors from the decomposition formed
an hallucinogenic gas that, when inhaled by the hippies in the bookstore's
receiving department, caused them to strip naked and run about the store
yelling "flying turtles are real - they just don't show up on radar!"


>

It's worse. The EAN believes in an optional, additional, digit (making 14 in
all) to indicate packing quantity.

Example:
No leading digit = single can of armadillo-flavored chili
1 = case of 12 cans
2 = pallet of 50 cases
3 = truck load of 22 pallets
4 = shipping container of 3 truck loads

Each of these will have a different check-digit.

Fortunately, in the book business, this silliness is irrelevant. Publishers
traditionally assign a different ISBN/EAN to each packing quantity, leading
often to "You ordered 3 PALLETS of 'Collectable Locomotives' ?!! Have you
been sniffing shipping cartons again?"


From: Anonymous on
In article <roKdnRyyZfhul7zVnZ2dnUVZ_rKtnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>,
HeyBub <heybub(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

[snip]

>I learned, during my tenure as a cop, that people are basically funny. If
>you stress 'em a bit, the facade of civilization drops away. Ask any cop,
>ambulance driver, emergency room worker, or fire fighter and they can tell
>you stories.

Many people have told me stories and I've lived through a few myself; what
I've learned is that it works both ways.

As human being-type peope get stressed a bit for some 'the facade of
civilisation' drops, for others they get spurred to heights of
selflessness, courage, nobility and valor.

Don't believe it? It *must* be the case... or those whose professions
involve a bit of stressing would constantly be facade-dropping... folks
like firefighters... and ambulance drivers... and cops.

DD

From: HeyBub on
docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote:
> In article <roKdnRyyZfhul7zVnZ2dnUVZ_rKtnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>,
> HeyBub <heybub(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> I learned, during my tenure as a cop, that people are basically
>> funny. If you stress 'em a bit, the facade of civilization drops
>> away. Ask any cop, ambulance driver, emergency room worker, or fire
>> fighter and they can tell you stories.
>
> Many people have told me stories and I've lived through a few myself;
> what I've learned is that it works both ways.
>
> As human being-type peope get stressed a bit for some 'the facade of
> civilisation' drops, for others they get spurred to heights of
> selflessness, courage, nobility and valor.
>
> Don't believe it? It *must* be the case... or those whose professions
> involve a bit of stressing would constantly be facade-dropping...
> folks like firefighters... and ambulance drivers... and cops.
>

I agree.

I was just watching the TV archives of the 9-11 attack this morning and that
story proves your point. Tens of thousands screamed like little girls and
bagged it for Pennsylvania while a few hundred ran toward the source of the
mayhem.

I recall being on a half-full flight that went through some turbulent
weather. Significantly turbulent. People up front started screaming. I, in
the back, yelled out "Yippee! Ride 'em cowboy! Waa-Hoo Eskimo!" and such.
The screaming stopped.

Later a stew leaned over and said "Thanks."

This was a different stewardess than the one who once leaned over and said:
"Excuse me sir, can you do me a big favor?"

"I can't," I replied. "I'm married."

With a smile and a tilt of the head, she said: "So am I. But we're both
leaving town. Who's to know?"

"Does it involve winged monkeys?"

The three guys sitting in front of me lost it altogether.

Ah, well. Back to work... boom-boom, ragha-ragha, boom-boom...


From: Anonymous on
In article <ZeSdneSp_sjmK7zVnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>,
HeyBub <heybub(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote:
>> In article <roKdnRyyZfhul7zVnZ2dnUVZ_rKtnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>,
>> HeyBub <heybub(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> I learned, during my tenure as a cop, that people are basically
>>> funny. If you stress 'em a bit, the facade of civilization drops
>>> away. Ask any cop, ambulance driver, emergency room worker, or fire
>>> fighter and they can tell you stories.
>>
>> Many people have told me stories and I've lived through a few myself;
>> what I've learned is that it works both ways.
>>
>> As human being-type peope get stressed a bit for some 'the facade of
>> civilisation' drops, for others they get spurred to heights of
>> selflessness, courage, nobility and valor.

[snip]

>I agree.
>
>I was just watching the TV archives of the 9-11 attack this morning and that
>story proves your point. Tens of thousands screamed like little girls and
>bagged it for Pennsylvania while a few hundred ran toward the source of the
>mayhem.

From this it might be concluded that these characteristics of
selflessness, courage, nobility and valor are *not* genetically related;
those who run towards danger decrease their chances, once the danger has
passed, of having children.

DD