EIDE (Enhanced IDE) vs IDE
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From: Curious George on 7 Mar 2006 02:09 On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 05:31:15 GMT, no(a)spam.invalid (william729) wrote: >I am not like some, I have not owned very many puters. My first was in >98. It had win98. Pentium II 450. Sounds like a relatively expensive box mid 98 or possibly later. > It was ATA100. Not 66, not 33. It That doesn't seem possible considering when the ATA/ATAPI6 was being worked on & ratified. >doesn't seem hard for me to believe that 33 was out just 2 years >earlier. My system, could only recognize something in the 63GB range. >To overcome that limitaion, I had to use a PCI card that came with my >120GB HD. > >I only offer a timeline. I wish the best for David. > >Slick Willie unfortunately, even if that is true it does not help him, and may only confuse him. I know he will get that 40 gig drive working, there are several possibilities. I only hope he hasn't been given false hope, and confused by testimonials of much newer products, that wastes his time.
From: kony on 7 Mar 2006 14:09 On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 07:09:05 GMT, Curious George <cg(a)email.net> wrote: >Pathetic. I guess some got in your eye so you can't see there's egg >on your face, not an omelet on your plate. > >When you have a clue about what's on topic i.e. 1996 Pavillions or >similar, 2 gig drive models in total, etc. they'll be something to >talk about here. Your baits & ignorant distractions are boring. Yawn. Have a nice day.
From: kony on 7 Mar 2006 14:12 On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 08:34:06 GMT, Curious George <cg(a)email.net> wrote: >Countering my assessment of >subsequent development/support of 1996 machines by citing what came >out years later and how they were supported in a confused, fast & >loose manner, is irrelevant. That's just it, these are not things that "came out years later". Apparently all you've shown is that technology always limits you because you just assume something can't be done. Fine by me.
From: kony on 7 Mar 2006 14:19 On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 07:09:07 GMT, Curious George <cg(a)email.net> wrote: >unfortunately, even if that is true it does not help him, and may only >confuse him. I know he will get that 40 gig drive working, there are >several possibilities. I only hope he hasn't been given false hope, >and confused by testimonials of much newer products, that wastes his >time. There's not much false hope to have. Situation is same as always, buy the drive one wants and that is supported by the OS, (in cases of Win9x or older) and if it won't work, throw a PCI ATA133 card in, an additional $15. However, it's a bit pointless to choose a 40GB drive if this is going to be the route taken, so IF he's going to buy a very small drive today it would only make sense in the context of finding out exactly what his board would support, not through listening to your overgeneralized speculations but actually checking. If there is no data available, again there is no reason to think "buy a 40GB HDD", rather than planning to need the PCI IDE card and then having a larger, faster drive. 120GB drives have been in US weekend papers for $40 after rebate or less, making it of no significance how much space went unused (if he doesn't want large #s of 2GB partitions in the case of FAT16), only that it was a new faster model.
From: Curious George on 8 Mar 2006 14:49
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:12:43 GMT, kony <spam(a)spam.com> wrote: >On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 08:34:06 GMT, Curious George ><cg(a)email.net> wrote: > >>Countering my assessment of >>subsequent development/support of 1996 machines by citing what came >>out years later and how they were supported in a confused, fast & >>loose manner, is irrelevant. > > >That's just it, these are not things that "came out years >later". Apparently all you've shown is that technology >always limits you because you just assume something can't be >done. Fine by me. There's no need to be such a twit. If there's one thing that's obvious from this date dropping pissing match it's just how dramatic and quickly advances were made in this time period. It has been my position that manufacturers, at this time, provided very limited further development/upgrade/support to ensure upward compatibility of 1+ yr old computers. Products that were just coming out in 1997-1998 are irrelevant to what was on the streets in 1996, and how those 1996 products' OEMs supported upward compatibility in a very fast moving & competitive environment. Let's assume David doesn't care about neutering the upgrade disk's max bus capabilities. Then the upgrade target here is the 40gig drive and the 65,536 Cylinder boundary both of which came out around or after these 1996 machines were already slated EOL. The next best target is the 7.88 GiB / 8.46 GB Barrier. While this looks promising, because of the timeframe, the reality is such BIOS updates almost never happened (never saw even 1 for a 1996 P133). When you're ready to seriously talk about 1996 machines, or David's Pavillion in particular, and the support & support philosophies that actually took place in the 90's concerning these 1996 machines we're all listening. Have a nice day. |