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From: Alan Hill. on 14 Jan 2008 03:46
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For many years Animal Rights advocates have tried to expose the truth
that CONservation hooligans were coining it in at the taxpayers
expense in grants and public donations supposedly to protect wildlife,
but were in fact killing animals and often partnered by pro hunt
groups. Well now the truth is out.

http://tinyurl.com/29azyr

RSPB hands out licence that lets nature reserve visitors kill up to 10
birds a day for sport
Last updated at 11:36am on 11th January 2008

A bird charity has raised eyebrows by letting ducks and geese be shot
on a nature reserve.

The RSPB hands out shooting licences on its land at Langstone Harbour,
near Portsmouth, Hants, where wildfowlers can kill up to 10 birds a
day - for sport.

The shooting has been allowed for years, but was only revealed when a
pellet-riddled duck carcass was found by a walker.

The charity today defended its decision, saying shoots are very
carefully monitored and the alternative would be to have illegal
poachers causing havoc.

But wildlife lovers say it is against what the RSPB stands for -
protecting birds.

Barry Hugill, from the League Against Cruel Sports, said: "I find it
exceedingly distasteful. It's a wildlife sanctuary.

"How on earth can it be a sanctuary if someone is going to come and
kill the birds that are resident there simply because they enjoy
killing things?

"I think it's scandalous and I do hope the RSPB will reconsider their
decision."

Keen twitcher and conservationist Robert Hill, who discovered a dead
widgeon duck covered in pellet wounds, is horrified.

There are signs up in Langstone Harbour saying wildfowling takes
place, but he said it has never been publicly announced.

There is no mention of the shooting licences on the RSPB's website.

Mr Hill, 43, of Waterlooville, Hants, said: "I don't think it's
acceptable. It's a blood sport.

"I can't see any justification for it. It's a macho, egotistical, self
gratifying act and I think it's disgusting.

"No-one owns wildlife. These poor animals come in for sanctuary and
end up getting blown out of the air."

Local wildfowling group, the Langstone & District Wildfowlers &
Conservation Association, has had shooting rights on the land since
1979 and wildfowling has taken place in the harbour since the 1600s.

They are allowed to shoot between September and January on two of five
islands in Langstone Harbour, which can be accessed by walking across
the mudflats, and on saltmarshes at the northeast of Farlington
Marshes.

At the end of each month they have to report every bird shot to the
RSPB so bird levels can be monitored.

They must not shoot more than 10 birds each in one day, but in reality
the club's members say they have only killed a handful of birds
between them since September.

Chris Cockburn, RSPB warden for Langstone harbour, said: "If
wildfowling was banned the only way we could make it work would be by
policing it.

"The reality is that would be very difficult whereas by licensing it
we are effectively controlling the amount of shooting that can occur.

"At the moment the controls in place are pretty stringent. The
alternative to the situation we have is grim.

"Poaching would be disastrous for the harbour. It would be disastrous
for the bird populations."

He said one of the rules is that wildfowlers must always have a dog
with them, which would usually collect up any dead birds.

He added: "The RSPB does not have any axe to grind against any sport
unless it affects the conservation issues and then we would be very
much against it."

Nick Horten, from the wildfowlers association, said the group carries
out huge amounts of conservation work in the area and is extremely
careful about the types of birds they shoot.

All members are vetted by the police and must train for a year before
they are allowed to shoot alone.

He said: "We have been a tenant of the RSPB which is the foremost bird
conservation group for 30 years and if they had the slightest concern
about the way we conduct ourselves they would have thrown us off years
ago."

Wildfowlers also defended their sport saying it is more humane to eat
a shot duck than a battery farmed chicken.

Nick Horten shoots with the Langstone club and like most wildfowlers
eats all the birds he shoots.

He said: "I prefer to go and shoot a duck that's led a completely wild
life and that has never been contained or mistreated like a battery
chicken."

"It's the healthiest food you can get. It dies very quickly. I don't
have a problem with causing its demise.

"I'm not hypocritical like people who rant against wildfowlers but
then go to the supermarket and buy a battery chicken."

He said as with other wildfowling groups his does a lot of manual work
to preserve the harbour area and he said the club's wardens are
regularly out and about looking out for people shooting illegally.

When they spot poachers they report them to the police so they can be
prosecuted. Three were recently spotted on Farlington Marshes and
reported.

David Knowles, regional director of the British Association for
Shooting and Conservation, said wildfowling clubs all work very
closely with conservation bodies to preserve natural areas and often
wildfowlers are bird lovers as well.

He said: "Very few birds are actually shot. It's a very sustainable
harvest.

"There are tens of thousands of widgeon around the south coast and
probably no more than 300 are shot each year."

Only certain species of bird are legally allowed to be shot in
Langstone Harbour by those with a licence. Others, such as Brent
Geese, are protected

More details about the RSPB and other CONservation hooligans can be
seen at


http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=rspb+slaughter&meta=

http://tinyurl.com/2xgmbg

THIS is where our donations are really going and I for one will no
longer be supporting them.


From: none on 23 Jan 2008 18:23
Alan Hill. <info(a)urfreesim.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
>Nick Horten, from the wildfowlers association, said the group carries
>out huge amounts of conservation work in the area and is extremely
>careful about the types of birds they shoot.
>
>All members are vetted by the police and must train for a year before
>they are allowed to shoot alone.
>
>Wildfowlers also defended their sport saying it is more humane to eat
>a shot duck than a battery farmed chicken.
>
>Nick Horten shoots with the Langstone club and like most wildfowlers
>eats all the birds he shoots.
>
>He said: "I prefer to go and shoot a duck that's led a completely wild
>life and that has never been contained or mistreated like a battery
>chicken."
>
>"It's the healthiest food you can get. It dies very quickly. I don't
>have a problem with causing its demise.
>
>"I'm not hypocritical like people who rant against wildfowlers but
>then go to the supermarket and buy a battery chicken."
>
>He said as with other wildfowling groups his does a lot of manual work
>to preserve the harbour area and he said the club's wardens are
>regularly out and about looking out for people shooting illegally.
>
>When they spot poachers they report them to the police so they can be
>prosecuted. Three were recently spotted on Farlington Marshes and
>reported.
>
>David Knowles, regional director of the British Association for
>Shooting and Conservation, said wildfowling clubs all work very
>closely with conservation bodies to preserve natural areas and often
>wildfowlers are bird lovers as well.
>
>He said: "Very few birds are actually shot. It's a very sustainable
>harvest.
>
>"There are tens of thousands of widgeon around the south coast and
>probably no more than 300 are shot each year."
>
>Only certain species of bird are legally allowed to be shot in
>Langstone Harbour by those with a licence. Others, such as Brent
>Geese, are protected
>
Sounds fair enough to me - so what is the problem? Looks to be a reasonable solution.

I've been given a couple of ducks someone I know has shot - they're in our freezer,
they'll be eaten, and will help to feed us. (Actually done in a slow cooker they are
delicious).

This seems to be more environmentally friendly than rearing thousands of chickens in
a heated "factory", where the carbon emissions from the heating and lighting, and
suffering of the birds, is essentially unjustifiable.

Long live shooting, and well done to the RSPB for a sensible approach. I for one will
be happy to continue supporting their superb efforts.


From: none on 24 Jan 2008 16:33
peculiar and painful observances, on
pain of death. Whence it is very astonishing that it has been constantly
preserved during many centuries by a people, rebellious and impatient as
this one was; while all other states have changed their laws from time to
time, although these were far more lenient.

The book which contains this law, the first of all, is itself the most
ancient book in the world, those of Homer, Hesiod, and others, being six or
seven hundred years later.

621. The creation of the deluge being past, and God no longer requiring to
destroy the world, nor to create it anew, nor to give such great signs of
Himself, He began to establish a people on the earth, purposely formed, who
were to last until the coming of the people whom the Messiah should fashion
by His spirit.

622. The creation of the world beginning to be distant, God provided a
single contemporary historian, and appointed a whole people as guardians of
this book, in order that this history might be the most authentic in the
world, and that all men might thereby learn a fact so necessary to know, and
which could only be known through that means.

623. Japhet begins the genealogy


From: none on 24 Jan 2008 16:37
as a miracle is obvious.
Therefore a miracle could lead into error.

Ubi est Deus tuus?209 Miracles show Him, and are a light.

847. One of the anthems for Vespers at Christmas: Exortum est in tenebris
lumen rectis corde.[210]

848. If the compassion of God is so great that He instructs us to our
benefit, even when He hides Himself, what light ought we not to expect from
Him when He reveals Himself?

849. Will Est et non est.211 be received in faith itself as well as in
miracles? And if it is inseparable in the others...

When Saint Xavier works miracles. Saint Hilary. "Ye wretches, who oblige us
to speak of miracles."

Unjust judges, make not your own laws on the moment; judge by those which
are established, and by yourselves. Vae qui conditis leges iniquas.212

Miracles endless, false.

In order to weaken your adversaries, you disarm the whole Church.

If they say that our salvation depends upon God, they are "heretics." If
they say that they are obedient to the Pope, that is "hypocrisy." If they
are ready to subscribe to all the articles, that is not enough. If they say
that a man must not be killed for an apple, "they attack the morality of
Catholics." If miracles are done among them, it is not a sign of holiness,
a


From: none on 24 Jan 2008 16:38
day. Behold, the days
come, saith the Lord, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of
bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord. And
they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east; they
shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.

"In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for thirst. They
that have followed the idols of Samaria, and sworn by the god of Dan, and
followed the manner of Beersheba, shall fall, and never rise up again."

Amos 3:2: "Ye only have I known of all the families of the earth for my
people."

Daniel 12:7. Having described all the extent of the reign of the Messiah, he
says: "All these things shall be finished, when the scattering of the people
of Israel shall be accomplished."

Haggai 2:4: "Ye who, comparing this second house with the glory of the
first, despise it, be strong, saith the Lord, be strong, O Zerubbabel, and O
Jesus, the high priest, be strong, all ye people of the land, and work. For
I am with you, saith the Lord of hosts; according to the word that I
covenanted with you when ye came out of Egypt, so my spirit remaineth among
you. Fear ye not. For thus saith the Lord of hosts: Yet one little while,
and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land,"
(a way of speaking to indicate a great and an extraordinary change); "and I
will shake all nations, and the desire of all the Gentiles shall come; and I
will fill this house with glory, saith the Lord.

"The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the Lord," (that is to say,
it is not by that that I wish to be honoured; as it is said elsewhere: All
the beasts of the field are mine, what advantages me that they are offered
me in sacrifice?). "The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of
t


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