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From: Bill Durham on 7 Jul 2008 22:24 So.. I've loaded Sonar Home Studio 4 on my new laptop (Toshiba A305-S6825 Intel Core 2 Duo T5550, 3g ram, 250g hd) and also EZ drummer. My problem is I can't get EZ drummer to show up in HS4. I downloaded the dxi patch from toontracks. I did the Sonar scan of the VST plugin.. but for some reason it won't let me open up EZ Drummer. Also, I can't for the life of me remember what I did to make it work on my desktop machine. Any help appreciated. BD
From: Rick Paul on 8 Jul 2008 02:35 "Bill Durham" <billdurham(a)attglobal.net> wrote in message news:G8udnU2B_9uiTe_VnZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d(a)comcast.com... > So.. I've loaded Sonar Home Studio 4 on my new laptop (Toshiba A305-S6825 > Intel Core 2 Duo T5550, 3g ram, 250g hd) and also EZ drummer. My problem > is I can't get EZ drummer to show up in HS4. I downloaded the dxi patch > from toontracks. I did the Sonar scan of the VST plugin.. but for some > reason it won't let me open up EZ Drummer. Also, I can't for the life of > me remember what I did to make it work on my desktop machine. Any help > appreciated. Just guesses here as I don't know much about Home Studio 4 in terms of what it does and doesn't support plug-in-wise: First, as far as I know, EZ Drummer is VST only -- i.e. no DXi version. If that is true, the only way you'd get it to show up as a DXi would be if you have some VST to DXi converter. It might be that Home Studio has that built in, though, or that Home Studio natively supports VST? Second, you mention scanning the VST plug-in with SONAR, but don't mention what version of SONAR you're talking about. If it is SONAR 6 or later, I don't think that would be meaningful with respect to having it show up in Home Studio. In particular, SONAR 6 and 7 have native VST support, not a VST to DXi adapter. Thus, scanning VST plug-ins with S6 or S7 would make those plug-ins work within SONAR, but, as far as I know, would not make them work in any other application that didn't support VST or provide its own VST-to-DXi converter. Finally, you don't mention what specifically is going wrong. Does EZD just not show up in the menus at all? Or does it show up but then when you try to open it, the UI doesn't show or ...??? If it does show up, but the UI doesn't show, I seem to recall there having been a problem at one time with DFHS where something like that happened, but maybe I'm recalling wrong and it was EZD instead? In any case, it might be worth checking if there is some patch or posting on a Toontrack BBS (or e-mailing their support) with the specifics in such a case, and maybe it'll ring some bells for someone. If it isn't even showing up in the menus, and the reason isn't related to the first two things I mentioned (i.e. either Home Studio supports VST directly, or includes its own adapter, or you used an earlier version of SONAR that did have a true VST-to-DX adapter to do the scanning and make EZD appear as a DXi), then there is one thing I can think of that might help. In some cases where there has been a problem while scanning VST plug-ins in SONAR a plug-in seems to get partway installed, but it's like it is excluded (assumedly due to whatever the problem was), and SONAR won't try to rescan that specific plug-in unless it thinks it changed. To address that, you have to make SONAR think the status of the plug-in changed, and the way I usually do that is temporarily move that plug-in's directory outside of the folders being scanned for VST plug-ins then start SONAR to make SONAR remove the plug-in from its list. Next I move the plug-in directory back where it used to be (i.e. in the VST path somewhere) and restart SONAR to let it scan again, this time catching the plug-in it didn't scan properly before. Assuming there isn't a real problem with that specific plug-in (i.e. the problem was related to some other issue that just coincidentally clobbered the scanning of the plug-in), it should now get properly scanned and become available in the menus. Note that I said I do this with SONAR. How much of it applies to Home Studio 4, I don't have a clue, but I'd think there should be some similar possibility for dealing with a plug-in that doesn't get scanned properly the first time. Good luck. Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic =======================================
From: Bill Durham on 8 Jul 2008 10:04 Guys.. thanks for the replies. Rick.. what I have is Sonar Home Studio 4.. thats what they call it.. I think its based on Sonar 2.. and it does come with the Cake VST Wrapper. The problem is it doesn't show up at all in SHS4. I installed it using the non-custom path..letting it put all the files where it wanted to.. and it created a folder called VST Plugins.. where it puts the .dll file for cake to find. When I run the cake VST wrapper, it finds the file and it says it will be available as a Dxi plug.. but it doesn't. thanks again BD Glennbo wrote: > In news:De6dnQj1Q7rRl-7VnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d(a)earthlink.com the killer robot > "Rick Paul" <rickpaul(a)earthlink.net> grabbed the controls of the spaceship > cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > >> First, as far as I know, EZ Drummer is VST only > > Only if some kind of VSTi to DXi wrapper software was used, would EZD show > up as a DXi. Although Cakewalk tried to go the Microsoft way with DX plugs > and instruments, the truth is that it's less of a standard than VST. > Toontrack supports three plugin standards, two of which are Apple formats, > and the other is VSTi, but not DXi. >
From: Rick Paul on 9 Jul 2008 02:04 "Bill Durham" <billdurham(a)attglobal.net> wrote in message news:HqWdnbD7MdT66e7VnZ2dnUVZ_ovinZ2d(a)comcast.com... > Guys.. thanks for the replies. > Rick.. what I have is Sonar Home Studio 4.. thats what they call it.. I > think its based on Sonar 2.. and it does come with the Cake VST Wrapper. > The problem is it doesn't show up at all in SHS4. I installed it using the > non-custom path..letting it put all the files where it wanted to.. and it > created a folder called VST Plugins.. where it puts the .dll file for cake > to find. When I run the cake VST wrapper, it finds the file and it says it > will be available as a Dxi plug.. but it doesn't. Not having had access to EZ Drummer back when SONAR 2 (or even SONAR 4) was around, I have no clue whether the VST Adaptor at that time was functional enough to do what EZD needs, though I have no reason to suspect it wouldn't be, either. The earliest version of SONAR I used with EZD was V5 (it worked there). The thing I was talking about with scanning problems is only applicable to the integrated VST support from SONAR 6 onwards. I do think some earlier versions of SONAR had the SONAR Plug-in Manager, which would let you go see what plug-ins are configured (I think including VST ones converted as DX), and, if so, you might be able to check there to see if it thinks the plug-in is enabled or disabled (and try enabling it if it shows up as disabled). That's the other thing I can think of that could make it not show up, though how it would have gotten that way might be a mystery (perhaps a crash and saying yes to automatic disabling of it for future uses?). Only other thing I can think of is contacting Cakewalk support to see if you can get some help in troubleshooting it since they should be familiar with whatever the capabilities were in that product, or asking around a bit more (any forums where there may be more Home Studio users or Toontrack forums?) to see if anyone else might be doing what you're trying to do (or might have encountered the same problems). Good luck. Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic =======================================
From: Nil on 9 Jul 2008 08:54
On 09 Jul 2008, "Rick Paul" <rickpaul(a)earthlink.net> wrote in cakewalk.audio: > Not having had access to EZ Drummer back when SONAR 2 (or even > SONAR 4) was around, I have no clue whether the VST Adaptor at > that time was functional enough to do what EZD needs, though I > have no reason to suspect it wouldn't be, either. It does. EZ Drummer works well with Sonar 2 - I just tried it. |