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From: Wilson on 14 May 2008 10:34 I'm trying to identify metrics that the PMO can use to control this project and I'm having difficulty because the planning team decided to not input cost or resource information. They have simply assigned responsibilities via a text field and manage the cost aspect somewhere else. The PMO is looking for "EVM" type metrics but without cost and resource info I'm sort of at a loss. Is it possible and or does it even make sense to jimmy the EVM metrics to use only duration? I.e. Instead of using BCWP - BCWS, use # of Activities completed - # of Activities scheduled to be completed.... Another example I considered was a modified Earned Schedule (*we started the project in Feb): (# of months complete) + {[(# of tasks completed)-(# of tasks scheduled through April)] / [(# of tasks scheduled in May)-((# of tasks scheduled through April)]} Using the data from the above formula, I would then be able to arrive at SPI(t) & SV(t) QUESTION - Does this make any sense (considering the limited amount of data I have to work with) or am I crazy?
From: salgud on 14 May 2008 12:31 On Wed, 14 May 2008 07:34:00 -0700, Wilson wrote: > I'm trying to identify metrics that the PMO can use to control this project > and I'm having difficulty because the planning team decided to not input cost > or resource information. They have simply assigned responsibilities via a > text field and manage the cost aspect somewhere else. The PMO is looking for > "EVM" type metrics but without cost and resource info I'm sort of at a loss. > Is it possible and or does it even make sense to jimmy the EVM metrics to use > only duration? I.e. Instead of using BCWP - BCWS, use # of Activities > completed - # of Activities scheduled to be completed.... Another example I > considered was a modified Earned Schedule (*we started the project in Feb): I think you mean Earned Value. And no, it won't work at the activity level. And activity could involve anything between 8 hrs (usually shouldn't be less than a day) and thousands of hours (though it should have a duration of less that 10 days, which could be thousands of hours if enough resources were working on it). So there is too much variation between activities size to make them a useful metric. > > (# of months complete) + {[(# of tasks completed)-(# of tasks scheduled > through April)] / [(# of tasks scheduled in May)-((# of tasks scheduled > through April)]} > > Using the data from the above formula, I would then be able to arrive at > SPI(t) & SV(t) But not meaningful ones. > > QUESTION - Does this make any sense (considering the limited amount of data > I have to work with) or am I crazy? It sounds to me that you don't have anything to hang your hat on. You're team has chosen to not monitor anything that could be used to track progress. In some cases, like construction, consumables used as metrics, though not for EV. This would be things like cubic yards of concrete installed, tons of rebar installed, tons of pipe installed, yards of conduit installed, etc. But these measure only a specific kind of progress, not overall progress. But maybe there's some way you can find a similar metric for your kind of projects. Hope this helps in your world.
From: Wilson on 14 May 2008 14:09 I appreciate your help. This is a large software implementation (upwards of 70MM and approx 6000 tasks through assembly test phase). The planning team did input an 'effort' value into one of the text fields but I have little faith the values have remained accurate since planning finished. I agree that it makes sense that the variances between activity efforts would nix using Earned Value at the activity level. Thanks for your help though.
From: Jim Aksel on 14 May 2008 18:37 There may be some saving tatics, but this will get sticky. You may be better of with some of the trip wire indices such as Basline Executability Index (you alluded to it). You can also compare actual duration to baseline duration to see if that might get you anywhere. You really need to check my profile to see if you see anything useful. There are a lot of tools to help you get this done, but those tools are not "free ware" First, memorialize your %Complete someplace. Stick it in spare field. Also save all the current start/finish dates as well. You may want to use something like Baseline1 for this data. Change all the task types to fixed duration. Now, clear out your %Completes. Insert the Baseline1 Start/Finish columns and compare your current start/finish to those dates. You will need to adjust schedule logic so your dates mesh back up. Now you should be back to "go." Decide what you want to track for your baseline. If resource costs are about the same, you can reasonably fake this with one resource named "Worker1" costed at $1/hr. At that point, physical%Complete and %WorkComplete will be the same. You can peanut butter the worker1 on all descrete (not summary) tasks and this will give you some measure of "value" that is (duration) weighted. How do you weight each task as per the "baseline" the PM is keeping someplace. It can be done, you have to agree with the PM on the value of each work package. Once there is a properly costed/resource loaded schedule in place, you can set a baseline, repopulate your %Completes and see where you are. If you properly status the schedule, you should have a pretty good idea of your EV. In your case, "properly costed resource loaded" can be worker1 $1/hr. I could write for pages.... this should get you started. -- If this post was helpful, please consider rating it. Jim Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for FAQs and more information about Microsoft Project "Wilson" wrote: > I'm trying to identify metrics that the PMO can use to control this project > and I'm having difficulty because the planning team decided to not input cost > or resource information. They have simply assigned responsibilities via a > text field and manage the cost aspect somewhere else. The PMO is looking for > "EVM" type metrics but without cost and resource info I'm sort of at a loss. > Is it possible and or does it even make sense to jimmy the EVM metrics to use > only duration? I.e. Instead of using BCWP - BCWS, use # of Activities > completed - # of Activities scheduled to be completed.... Another example I > considered was a modified Earned Schedule (*we started the project in Feb): > > (# of months complete) + {[(# of tasks completed)-(# of tasks scheduled > through April)] / [(# of tasks scheduled in May)-((# of tasks scheduled > through April)]} > > Using the data from the above formula, I would then be able to arrive at > SPI(t) & SV(t) > > QUESTION - Does this make any sense (considering the limited amount of data > I have to work with) or am I crazy? > >
From: Trevor Rabey on 14 May 2008 22:12 Search the group for "Cumulative Days". There has been some recent discussion about this. However, I think your PMO is kidding themselves if they think that you can get meaningful information out when they don't put any of the necessary data in. The necessary data must exist, someone must know the resources and cost estimate for every task, so why not put it into the project plan? You say they are managing the costs elsewhere. I doubt it is being managed at all. Trevor Rabey 0407213955 61 8 92727485 PERFECT PROJECT PLANNING www.perfectproject.com.au "Wilson" <Wilson(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:AB4A724A-6347-484A-8549-94B66F6E645B(a)microsoft.com... > I'm trying to identify metrics that the PMO can use to control this > project > and I'm having difficulty because the planning team decided to not input > cost > or resource information. They have simply assigned responsibilities via a > text field and manage the cost aspect somewhere else. The PMO is looking > for > "EVM" type metrics but without cost and resource info I'm sort of at a > loss. > Is it possible and or does it even make sense to jimmy the EVM metrics to > use > only duration? I.e. Instead of using BCWP - BCWS, use # of Activities > completed - # of Activities scheduled to be completed.... Another example > I > considered was a modified Earned Schedule (*we started the project in > Feb): > > (# of months complete) + {[(# of tasks completed)-(# of tasks scheduled > through April)] / [(# of tasks scheduled in May)-((# of tasks scheduled > through April)]} > > Using the data from the above formula, I would then be able to arrive at > SPI(t) & SV(t) > > QUESTION - Does this make any sense (considering the limited amount of > data > I have to work with) or am I crazy? > >
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