From: nospam on
In article <C445CFAA.5721%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com>, George Kerby
<ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> > i don't know where you get $80. isale is $39, garagesale is $29 and
> > ebay's windows software is free. also, isale and garagesale will host
> > images so you don't have to pay ebay for that either.
>
> "� 39,95" is the price I saw on the sale page.
>
> That's about $80 last I heard.
>
> https://www.equinux.com/eqnetwork/store/products/isale.html

i saw that too, but at macworld expo,they were selling it for $39. if
it really much higher, then the other app, garage sale, is an even
better deal, at just $29.
From: George Kerby on



On 5/4/08 8:20 PM, in article XhtTj.2921$0L.982(a)trnddc07, "Wes Groleau"
<groleau+news(a)freeshell.org> wrote:

> The New guy wrote:
>> And if you're away from the internet or asleep? A lot of good deals end
>> up going cheap because people mistakenly end their auctions in the
>> middle of the night. Sniping solves these problems. And I guess you
>
> Anyway, how can someone "mistakenly" end it in the
> middle of the night? Whether its a three-day,
> five-day, seven-day, ten-day auction or whatever,
> if it ends at 2:01 AM, then it started at 2:01 AM.
Actually, if you want, you can start it at any time you want. It *does* cost
you though.

From: nospam on
In article <C4447C87.55B7%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com>, George Kerby
<ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> > Anyway, how can someone "mistakenly" end it in the
> > middle of the night? Whether its a three-day,
> > five-day, seven-day, ten-day auction or whatever,
> > if it ends at 2:01 AM, then it started at 2:01 AM.
> Actually, if you want, you can start it at any time you want. It *does* cost
> you though.

only if you use ebay to schedule it. if you use software on the mac
(or pc) that schedules it, there's no additional charge.
From: -hh on
The NewGuy <noemailh...(a)please.comm> wrote:
>Carl Witthoft <c...(a)witthoft.com> wrote:
> >  The New guy <noemailh...(a)please.comm> wrote:
> > > And if you're away from the internet or asleep?

Shame on the seller for posting an auction with a customer-unfriendly
closing time.

> > > A lot of good deals end up going cheap because
> > > people mistakenly end their auctions in the
> > > middle of the night.

And probably just as many (if not more) open & close in a flash
because they made a mistake by setting a too-low "Buy it Now".


> > >  There is no easy answer.
>
> > No:  the easy answer is to decide what you are
> > willing to pay and bid that amount.  Sniping is
> > irrelevant, especially in the eBay world (where
> > they auto-increment your bid the minimum required).  
> > If a sniper beats you, it's because he was willing
> > to spend more than you.
>
> There's a competitive mentality of some buyers.
> Sniping is the only way of avoiding people upping
> their bids to beat you.  It keeps the price low
> because you are not telegraphing your intentions
> to anybody.

There is some competitive effect that can be an issue, but
situationally, does one really need special software to do what you
suggest?

Afterall, the only people that could be positioned to raise their bids
are only those who are in a position to do so. In other words,
they're online and waiting at their keyboards *AND* actively
monitoring (somehow) that they are being outbid *AND* they're deciding
what their revised bid is going to be...all within the window between
the time that you place your bid and the time that the auction
closes.

As such, while "10 seconds" can be argued to be the best, the
pragmatic reality is that there's not really going to be that much of
a difference ... based on "competitive" responses ... in the last 5,
sometimes 10, minutes.

And FWIW, some auction sites (not eBay) automatically extend the
bidding deadline to counter last minute sniping...their criteria is
typically ~5 minutes of no new bids received before an otherwise
expired auction can close.


-hh
From: The NewGuy on
In article <XhtTj.2921$0L.982(a)trnddc07>,
Wes Groleau <groleau+news(a)freeshell.org> wrote:

> The New guy wrote:
> > And if you're away from the internet or asleep? A lot of good deals end
> > up going cheap because people mistakenly end their auctions in the
> > middle of the night. Sniping solves these problems. And I guess you
>
> To each his own. If I check it at ten PM, and it looks
> like it's worth getting up for ten minutes at three AM,
> then I get up at three AM.
>
> But it has to be really good for that. Otherwise,
> I just blow it off. Another one is almost sure to
> come along.
>
> That's how I think of it. Obviously you have
> a different point of view.
>
> Anyway, how can someone "mistakenly" end it in the
> middle of the night? Whether its a three-day,
> five-day, seven-day, ten-day auction or whatever,
> if it ends at 2:01 AM, then it started at 2:01 AM.

A lot of beginners assume that when they place an auction they will be
able to control approximately when it will end. They don't realize it
ends exactly to the minute, 3/5/7/10 days after they hit the last click
to post their auction. So if they tend to do things in the middle of
the night, they get a rude awakening when their auction closes. And
they learn that traffic is good.