From: The NewGuy on
> > And probably just as many (if not more) open & close in a flash
> > because they made a mistake by setting a too-low "Buy it Now".
>
> one key to finding 'deals' is to look for such auctions. i've seen
> some closed auctions that closed with a buy-it-now in no more than 2-3
> minutes after the item was initially posted. clearly, the buy-it-now
> price was much too low. finding these, however, involves *huge* amount
> of luck.

That's an interesting angle. I haven't researched how to search for
recently posted Buy it Now listings under a certain price point. It
would work for very popular items. Once again we need software that
combs Ebay and other sites constantly, alerting us only when listings
fall into certain description, price and time left parameters.

> > As such, while "10 seconds" can be argued to be the best, the
> > pragmatic reality is that there's not really going to be that much of
> > a difference ... based on "competitive" responses ... in the last 5,
> > sometimes 10, minutes.
>
> there's often a lot of action in the last few minutes, even the last
> few seconds, often with items that garnered zero bids during the
> previous week.

Hence the problem! :) Ya gotta love it and hate it. Certainly makes
things interesting. But when it comes down to just finding what you
want at your maximum agreeable price....it wastes a tremendous amount of
time. Just be thankful stores don't sell like auction sites do! I
guess one could only look for Buy It Now listings for time savings.
From: George Kerby on



On 5/5/08 9:06 AM, in article 050520081006416963%nospam(a)nospam.invalid,
"nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <C4447C87.55B7%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com>, George Kerby
> <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Anyway, how can someone "mistakenly" end it in the
>>> middle of the night? Whether its a three-day,
>>> five-day, seven-day, ten-day auction or whatever,
>>> if it ends at 2:01 AM, then it started at 2:01 AM.
>> Actually, if you want, you can start it at any time you want. It *does* cost
>> you though.
>
> only if you use ebay to schedule it. if you use software on the mac
> (or pc) that schedules it, there's no additional charge.
Yeah. I think I'll stick with eBay. I don't think spending almost 80 bucks
for iSale to save a quarter makes good economic sense, unless you are a pro
seller.

From: Wes Groleau on
-hh wrote:
> The NewGuy <noemailh...(a)please.comm> wrote:
>> I've seen several auctions go up from $5 to $50
>> in the last 2 minutes!
>
> And how is one able to demonstrate that *all* (or even most) of the
> bids that transpired were due to humans reading screens and pushing
> keys with a competitive spirit, as opposed to programmed sniping
> simply doing its thing?

For that matter, how is one able to demonstrate it isn't from
someone entering a max bid of fifty dollars at the beginning,
which no one sees until others begin manually or automatically
"sniping"?

I have gotten all my Macs (except the first direct from Apple),
along with some parts and peripherals, and other electronic
items on eBay for what I consider real bargains. I did not need
any software to do it, and if anyone was using such software,
it was not successful in beating my manual methods.

On the other hand, I have watched other items go much higher,
so if any software was used there, it was not successful in
getting the prices my manual methods got me.

My say-so won't convince anyone, but my methods work for me.

--
Wes Groleau

Promote multi-use trails in northeast Indiana!
http://www.NorthwestAllenTrails.org/
From: Wes Groleau on
nospam wrote:
> one key to finding 'deals' is to look for such auctions. i've seen
> some closed auctions that closed with a buy-it-now in no more than 2-3
> minutes after the item was initially posted. clearly, the buy-it-now
> price was much too low. finding these, however, involves *huge* amount
> of luck.

Or a lot of time on your hands (and patience):

1, Enter a search for what you want.

2. Refine your search until most of the bogus hits no longer show.

3. Sort by lowest price first.

4. Keep clicking "refresh" until such a bargain appears..

5. Grab it quick!

--
Wes Groleau

People would have more leisure time if it weren't
for all the leisure-time activities that use it up.
-- Peg Bracken
From: Wes Groleau on
George Kerby wrote:
> <groleau+news(a)freeshell.org> wrote:
>> Anyway, how can someone "mistakenly" end it in the
>> middle of the night? Whether its a three-day,
>> five-day, seven-day, ten-day auction or whatever,
>> if it ends at 2:01 AM, then it started at 2:01 AM.
> Actually, if you want, you can start it at any time you want. It *does* cost
> you though.

Yes, you can start it at any time you want, but it is going to end some
multiple of 24 hours later unless you put forth an extra effort to
change that. Hence my doubting the claim that someone "mistakenly"
ended their auction in the middle of the night.

--
Wes Groleau

A bureaucrat is someone who cuts red tape lengthwise.