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From: The NewGuy on 5 May 2008 21:39 > >> I've seen several auctions go up from $5 to $50 > >> in the last 2 minutes! > > > > And how is one able to demonstrate that *all* (or even most) of the > > bids that transpired were due to humans reading screens and pushing > > keys with a competitive spirit, as opposed to programmed sniping > > simply doing its thing? > For that matter, how is one able to demonstrate it isn't from > someone entering a max bid of fifty dollars at the beginning, > which no one sees until others begin manually or automatically > "sniping"? Because so often when you bid you're not automatically overbid on right away. If somebody has put in a maximum bid of $80 for the item and you've just bid $70, its going to tell you right away. But this doesn't happen with sniping. You develop a smugness and false confidence (at least in the beginning) that you're really going to get this little treasure at a steal of a price. Then in the last 5 seconds - Wham! And you see you weren't even close. > I have gotten all my Macs (except the first direct from Apple), > along with some parts and peripherals, and other electronic > items on eBay for what I consider real bargains. I did not need > any software to do it, and if anyone was using such software, > it was not successful in beating my manual methods. > > On the other hand, I have watched other items go much higher, > so if any software was used there, it was not successful in > getting the prices my manual methods got me. > > My say-so won't convince anyone, but my methods work for me. Sniping has no disadvantages and many advantages. I wish it wasn't true....:)
From: The NewGuy on 5 May 2008 21:42 In article <WcOTj.15612$qW.9210(a)trnddc06>, Wes Groleau <groleau+news(a)freeshell.org> wrote: > George Kerby wrote: > > <groleau+news(a)freeshell.org> wrote: > >> Anyway, how can someone "mistakenly" end it in the > >> middle of the night? Whether its a three-day, > >> five-day, seven-day, ten-day auction or whatever, > >> if it ends at 2:01 AM, then it started at 2:01 AM. > > Actually, if you want, you can start it at any time you want. It *does* cost > > you though. > > Yes, you can start it at any time you want, but it is going to end some > multiple of 24 hours later unless you put forth an extra effort to > change that. Hence my doubting the claim that someone "mistakenly" > ended their auction in the middle of the night. They didn't realize it was going to end exactly, to the minute, of when they posted it and they just happened to be posting in the middle of the night. After they get some miserably low bids, they learn to never do that again. Early evenings seem to be best to end stuff taking into account the time zones involved. Probably 7-8pm Pacific is a good time. Weekday/weekend doesn't seem to change the price much. There are different people bidding, not necessarily more careless people in either time slot.
From: Wes Groleau on 5 May 2008 23:42 The NewGuy wrote: > Sniping has no disadvantages and many advantages. I wish it wasn't > true....:) Maybe. But I say again--no one else sniping, automated or not, has ever beaten me out of a bargain without paying a LOT more than I would have even considered. -- Wes Groleau "Ideas are more powerful than guns, We would not let our enemies have guns; why should we let them have ideas?" -- Jozef Stalin
From: Wes Groleau on 5 May 2008 23:45 The NewGuy wrote: > They didn't realize it was going to end exactly, to the minute, of when > they posted it and they just happened to be posting in the middle of the > night. After they get some miserably low bids, they learn to never do Maybe. I still doubt that anyone with enough intelligence to post an auction would think that seven days means six and a half. I especially think anyone dim enough to think that after being burned once is too dim to even create an account. -- Wes Groleau Free speech has its limits http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/WWW?itemid=99
From: Check Change on 6 May 2008 17:44
Go to esnipe.com. Probably a free trial. It's the berries! |