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From: Tim McNair on 4 May 2008 10:33
The New guy <noemailhere(a)please.comm> wrote:

> Just wondering what some of you recommend? And if there are some to
> stay away from. Its a lot of trust we're putting in that program.


Not a program, but I've used esnipe.com for years and am happy with it.
From: Carl Witthoft on 4 May 2008 13:12
In article <noemailhere-8EDB30.10551004052008(a)news.mts.net>,
The New guy <noemailhere(a)please.comm> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-1040B8.00521103052008(a)individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <7EQSj.118$aA1.66(a)trnddc05>,
> > Wes Groleau <groleau+news(a)freeshell.org> wrote:
> >
> > > The New guy wrote:
> > > > Its always ideal to be there, but often we have better things to do
> > > > than
> > > > camp on Ebay all day and night. I know I spend way too much time on
> > >
> > > Why "camp" ? If I see something that looks like a potential bargain,
> > > I just check on it _occasionally_ and on the last day, if it still
> > > looks worth the effort, I put a five minute warning on my PDA.
> >
> > Exactly. Most of the time I spend on eBay's web site is searching for
> > suitable auctions. Once I do find one, then I set a reminder for a few
> > minutes before the end of the auction with a URL to the auction. Then I
> > forget about it until the reminder pops up, and I do my sniping in 5-10
> > minutes. Done deal.
>
> And if you're away from the internet or asleep? A lot of good deals end
> up going cheap because people mistakenly end their auctions in the
> middle of the night. Sniping solves these problems. And I guess you
> would still snipe as late as possible, thereby eliminating auctions that
> have already risen too high. There is no easy answer.

No: the easy answer is to decide what you are willing to pay and bid
that amount. Sniping is irrelevant, especially in the eBay world (where
they auto-increment your bid the minimum required).
If a sniper beats you, it's because he was willing to spend more than
you.
Go look up some economics papers which point out, among other things,
that the price paid at auction is always more than the true worth of the
object (because 99% of the bidders valued it less).

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From: nospam on 4 May 2008 13:30
In article <carl-ED9D1A.13122204052008(a)comcast.dca.giganews.com>, Carl
Witthoft <carl(a)witthoft.com> wrote:

> > And if you're away from the internet or asleep? A lot of good deals end
> > up going cheap because people mistakenly end their auctions in the
> > middle of the night. Sniping solves these problems. And I guess you
> > would still snipe as late as possible, thereby eliminating auctions that
> > have already risen too high. There is no easy answer.
>
> No: the easy answer is to decide what you are willing to pay and bid
> that amount. Sniping is irrelevant, especially in the eBay world (where
> they auto-increment your bid the minimum required).

actually, it's *because* of how ebay works that sniping is effective.
From: spaam_this on 6 May 2008 13:17
On May 5, 11:42 pm, Wes Groleau <groleau+n...(a)freeshell.org> wrote:
> Maybe.  But I say again--no one elsesniping, automated or not,
> has ever beaten me out of a bargain without paying a LOT more
> than I would have even considered.

You consider one bid increment to be a LOT more?
From: Jolly Roger on 4 May 2008 15:25
In article <noemailhere-8EDB30.10551004052008(a)news.mts.net>,
The New guy <noemailhere(a)please.comm> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-1040B8.00521103052008(a)individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <7EQSj.118$aA1.66(a)trnddc05>,
> > Wes Groleau <groleau+news(a)freeshell.org> wrote:
> >
> > > The New guy wrote:
> > > > Its always ideal to be there, but often we have better things to do
> > > > than
> > > > camp on Ebay all day and night. I know I spend way too much time on
> > >
> > > Why "camp" ? If I see something that looks like a potential bargain,
> > > I just check on it _occasionally_ and on the last day, if it still
> > > looks worth the effort, I put a five minute warning on my PDA.
> >
> > Exactly. Most of the time I spend on eBay's web site is searching for
> > suitable auctions. Once I do find one, then I set a reminder for a few
> > minutes before the end of the auction with a URL to the auction. Then I
> > forget about it until the reminder pops up, and I do my sniping in 5-10
> > minutes. Done deal.
>
> And if you're away from the internet or asleep? A lot of good deals end
> up going cheap because people mistakenly end their auctions in the
> middle of the night. Sniping solves these problems. And I guess you
> would still snipe as late as possible, thereby eliminating auctions that
> have already risen too high. There is no easy answer.

You don't know me well. ; ) I don't sleep much, and I'm pretty much
always connected to the net.

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