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From: Wes Groleau on 5 Jul 2008 11:35
Jolly Roger wrote:
> Wes Groleau <groleau+news(a)freeshell.org> wrote:
>> Probably not. Since Mac OS 10.3 and Windows 200/XP mount them without
>> installing anything.
>
> Right, but they can't *format* it.

Ah, true. But he didn't want to format it.
He wanted to leave it usable (all of it) for space
readable by both Windows and Mac.

--
Wes Groleau

"In the field of language teaching, Method A is the logical
contradiction of Method B: if the assumptions from which
A claims to be derived are correct, then B cannot work,
and vice versa. Yet one colleague is getting excellent
results with A and another is getting comparable results
with B. How is this possible?"
-- Earl W. Stevick
From: Paul Fuchs on 5 Jul 2008 11:50
Fred Moore <fmoore(a)gcfn.org> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-6E3AB1.10121004072008(a)individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
> > In article <siegman-DB2A83.08071904072008(a)news.stanford.edu>,
> > AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote:
> > > I guess I'm still hoping that since this gadget presumably contains only
> > > a purely passive memory card, there must be some brute force way even on
> > > a Mac to use Disk Utility or ??? to totally erase the entire unit down
> > > to bare or empty memory and reformat that memory . . . or is the "U3"
> > > stuff in some kind of separate chip that can't be erased?
>
> So far as I know, and I have done some research as well as personal
> experimentation with these U3 devices, there is no way to clear them via
> the Mac OS. You have to take them to a D'Ohs machine and run the
> mentioned uninstaller.
>
> Microcenter is selling these at very attractive prices: 1,2,4,8,16GB for
> $7,9,14,25,50 respectively, with a nominal lifetime guarantee. Last I
> looked U3 was installed on the 4GB and up. Wherever you buy these they
> surely will have a D'Ohs machine onsite and _should_ have the
> uninstaller available. Before you buy them ask if they will clear the U3
> stuff. If not, buy from someone else.
>
> > Could it be it uses some custom hardware configuration that strays
> > enough from the standard USB specifications (in order to save money on
> > production costs) that it requires custom drivers to work rather than
> > relying on standard USB drivers in most computers?
>
> As far as I can tell, these drive use the standard USB driver, unless
> they load something special into RAM when they mount. You can delete
> some of the U3 info, but not the core read-only partition which contains
> the encoding executables. I have to say I'm impressed that SanDisk has
> made that partition so resistant to alteration, though it's yet another
> unnecessary D'Ohs PITA for Mac users.
>
> --Fred

At the risk of appearing to be a Neanderthal, what's a D'O?
--
Never believe anything until it's officially denied.
From: Fred Moore on 5 Jul 2008 15:29
In article <1ijkm00.gpkdvo1tx1meN%paulfuchs(a)porkain'tkosher.oink>,
paulfuchs(a)porkain'tkosher.oink (Paul Fuchs) wrote:
>
> At the risk of appearing to be a Neanderthal, what's a D'O?

Windows->Windoze->Doze->D'Ohs, as in Homer Simpson and always plural as
in the number of D'Oh moments one experiences with Win-D'Ohs.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D'oh!>

and especially the link at the bottom expressing repeated satisfaction
with Win-D'Ohs:
<http://www.hal-pc.org/~joejr/32dohs.wav>

;)

--Fred
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