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From: alexandru.chircu on 20 Jan 2010 05:50 http://www.edadesignline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=222300710 I leave the witty remarks to the more regular posters here :).
From: Alex R. Mosteo on 20 Jan 2010 11:46 alexandru.chircu(a)gmail.com wrote: > http://www.edadesignline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=222300710 > > I leave the witty remarks to the more regular posters here :). I just took it, and scored 7/10, with the caveat that 2 of my failures were partial (I chose one were several were valid), so I didn't chose wrong code. The other is that I rejected a solution that all compilers accepted, so I would never write it. All in all, I have not chosen a single unsafe answer :P I'm not here to be presumptuous, and I don't write serious C since my college years. Thus, this surely must mean that Ada has made me a super-safe programmer ;)
From: Keith Thompson on 20 Jan 2010 15:48 "Alex R. Mosteo" <alejandro(a)mosteo.com> writes: > alexandru.chircu(a)gmail.com wrote: > >> http://www.edadesignline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=222300710 >> >> I leave the witty remarks to the more regular posters here :). > > I just took it, and scored 7/10, with the caveat that > > 2 of my failures were partial (I chose one were several were valid), so I > didn't chose wrong code. > > The other is that I rejected a solution that all compilers accepted, so I > would never write it. > > All in all, I have not chosen a single unsafe answer :P Are you sure about that? I took the test myself, and as far as I could tell there was exactly one correct answer for each question, though some of the incorrect answers were incorrect for fairly subtle reasons. > I'm not here to be presumptuous, and I don't write serious C since my > college years. Thus, this surely must mean that Ada has made me a super-safe > programmer ;) -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u(a)mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst> Nokia "We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this." -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
From: Alex R. Mosteo on 21 Jan 2010 05:09 Keith Thompson wrote: > "Alex R. Mosteo" <alejandro(a)mosteo.com> writes: >> alexandru.chircu(a)gmail.com wrote: >> >>> http://www.edadesignline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=222300710 >>> >>> I leave the witty remarks to the more regular posters here :). >> >> I just took it, and scored 7/10, with the caveat that >> >> 2 of my failures were partial (I chose one were several were valid), so I >> didn't chose wrong code. >> >> The other is that I rejected a solution that all compilers accepted, so I >> would never write it. >> >> All in all, I have not chosen a single unsafe answer :P > > Are you sure about that? I took the test myself, and as far as I > could tell there was exactly one correct answer for each question, > though some of the incorrect answers were incorrect for fairly subtle > reasons. Well, yes, that's why I scored 7/10 and not 9/10 :P. But in two that I failed, the right one was "all of the above are correct", so my choice wasn't "wrong", in the sense that the answer I chose wasn't unsafe or not portable, which seemed to be the main gripe for the testers. I see that as a problem with how the questions were formulated. I'm not very fond of these kind of tests precisely because it's too easy to ask the wrong questions. Anyway, I was just joking around ;) >> I'm not here to be presumptuous, and I don't write serious C since my >> college years. Thus, this surely must mean that Ada has made me a >> super-safe programmer ;) >
From: Keith Thompson on 21 Jan 2010 16:54
"Alex R. Mosteo" <alejandro(a)mosteo.com> writes: > Keith Thompson wrote: > >> "Alex R. Mosteo" <alejandro(a)mosteo.com> writes: >>> alexandru.chircu(a)gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> http://www.edadesignline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=222300710 >>>> >>>> I leave the witty remarks to the more regular posters here :). >>> >>> I just took it, and scored 7/10, with the caveat that >>> >>> 2 of my failures were partial (I chose one were several were valid), so I >>> didn't chose wrong code. >>> >>> The other is that I rejected a solution that all compilers accepted, so I >>> would never write it. >>> >>> All in all, I have not chosen a single unsafe answer :P >> >> Are you sure about that? I took the test myself, and as far as I >> could tell there was exactly one correct answer for each question, >> though some of the incorrect answers were incorrect for fairly subtle >> reasons. > > Well, yes, that's why I scored 7/10 and not 9/10 :P. But in two that I > failed, the right one was "all of the above are correct", so my choice > wasn't "wrong", in the sense that the answer I chose wasn't unsafe or not > portable, which seemed to be the main gripe for the testers. Ok. But if one of the choices is "all of the above are correct", and all of the above are in fact correct, then that's the right answer and any other answer is wrong, even if that answer would otherwise have been correct. > I see that as a problem with how the questions were formulated. I'm not very > fond of these kind of tests precisely because it's too easy to ask the wrong > questions. Anyway, I was just joking around ;) Yeah, and I'm sure I'm taking this whole thing way too seriously. 8-)} -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u(a)mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst> Nokia "We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this." -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister" |