From: marierdj on
I just got my new Epson 4490 scanner.
Last night I have experimented with 4, 35mm slides. It may be due to my
lack of knowledge on how use it but, at this time, I found the output
quality a little deceiving. I am having some after though about Epson and
may be I should have got a dedicated film scanner. I wonder if there is
anyone using the same type of scanner?


From: Harry Stottle on

<marierdj(a)nb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>I just got my new Epson 4490 scanner.
> Last night I have experimented with 4, 35mm slides. It may be due to
> my lack of knowledge on how use it but, at this time, I found the
> output quality a little deceiving. I am having some after though
> about Epson and may be I should have got a dedicated film scanner. I
> wonder if there is anyone using the same type of scanner?
>

I recently bought an Epson 4490 and I am very pleased with the results.
I have used a dedicated 2700 Minolta scanner before, and found the
results from the 4490 to be at least as good.

My settings for 35mm slides would be:-
Professional Mode
Document Type - Film
Film Type - Positive
Image Type - 24-bit Color (or 48 but file sizes twice the size)
Scanning Quality - Best
Resolution 3200
Click on 'Configuration' then 'Color' and tick Color Control, untick
'Continuous auto exposure and set 'Display Gamma' to 2.2 if using
Windows, or leave it at 1.8 if Mac.
Make sure 'No Color Correction' is unticked.
Then do a 'Preview' and select the image using the marquee box
I then go to 'Adjustments' and click on 'Histogram Adjustment' then I
tick the individual colours in sequence Red - Green - Blue and set the
black slider to the left hand of the coloured histogram 'mountain', and
the white slider to the right hand side of the histogram 'mountain'. Do
this for each colour in turn, then close the histogram adjustment and
'Scan'.
This should give you an output file image that is pretty good, with
reasonably accurate colours, and the image can then be fine tuned in any
image editing programme for brightness, sharpening etc.

I have used the histogram adjustments as above for slides, colour
negatives, and black and white negatives, and had good results from all
3.


From: marierdj on
Thanks I appreciate the information.
I'll follow your setting for 35mm slides.
"Harry Stottle" <sorryspamdoesntwork(a)nospam.uk.co> wrote in message
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> <marierdj(a)nb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:QXuTg.721$%6.23657(a)ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>>I just got my new Epson 4490 scanner.
>> Last night I have experimented with 4, 35mm slides. It may be due to my
>> lack of knowledge on how use it but, at this time, I found the output
>> quality a little deceiving. I am having some after though about Epson
>> and may be I should have got a dedicated film scanner. I wonder if
>> there is anyone using the same type of scanner?
>>
>
> I recently bought an Epson 4490 and I am very pleased with the results. I
> have used a dedicated 2700 Minolta scanner before, and found the results
> from the 4490 to be at least as good.
>
> My settings for 35mm slides would be:-
> Professional Mode
> Document Type - Film
> Film Type - Positive
> Image Type - 24-bit Color (or 48 but file sizes twice the size)
> Scanning Quality - Best
> Resolution 3200
> Click on 'Configuration' then 'Color' and tick Color Control, untick
> 'Continuous auto exposure and set 'Display Gamma' to 2.2 if using Windows,
> or leave it at 1.8 if Mac.
> Make sure 'No Color Correction' is unticked.
> Then do a 'Preview' and select the image using the marquee box
> I then go to 'Adjustments' and click on 'Histogram Adjustment' then I tick
> the individual colours in sequence Red - Green - Blue and set the black
> slider to the left hand of the coloured histogram 'mountain', and the
> white slider to the right hand side of the histogram 'mountain'. Do this
> for each colour in turn, then close the histogram adjustment and 'Scan'.
> This should give you an output file image that is pretty good, with
> reasonably accurate colours, and the image can then be fine tuned in any
> image editing programme for brightness, sharpening etc.
>
> I have used the histogram adjustments as above for slides, colour
> negatives, and black and white negatives, and had good results from all 3.
>


From: marierdj on
I have used your setting and I am very pleased with the results.
Is this the only adjustment that need to be done or do you do any further
adjustment before scanning.

"Harry Stottle" <sorryspamdoesntwork(a)nospam.uk.co> wrote in message
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>
> <marierdj(a)nb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:QXuTg.721$%6.23657(a)ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>>I just got my new Epson 4490 scanner.
>> Last night I have experimented with 4, 35mm slides. It may be due to my
>> lack of knowledge on how use it but, at this time, I found the output
>> quality a little deceiving. I am having some after though about Epson
>> and may be I should have got a dedicated film scanner. I wonder if
>> there is anyone using the same type of scanner?
>>
>
> I recently bought an Epson 4490 and I am very pleased with the results. I
> have used a dedicated 2700 Minolta scanner before, and found the results
> from the 4490 to be at least as good.
>
> My settings for 35mm slides would be:-
> Professional Mode
> Document Type - Film
> Film Type - Positive
> Image Type - 24-bit Color (or 48 but file sizes twice the size)
> Scanning Quality - Best
> Resolution 3200
> Click on 'Configuration' then 'Color' and tick Color Control, untick
> 'Continuous auto exposure and set 'Display Gamma' to 2.2 if using Windows,
> or leave it at 1.8 if Mac.
> Make sure 'No Color Correction' is unticked.
> Then do a 'Preview' and select the image using the marquee box
> I then go to 'Adjustments' and click on 'Histogram Adjustment' then I tick
> the individual colours in sequence Red - Green - Blue and set the black
> slider to the left hand of the coloured histogram 'mountain', and the
> white slider to the right hand side of the histogram 'mountain'. Do this
> for each colour in turn, then close the histogram adjustment and 'Scan'.
> This should give you an output file image that is pretty good, with
> reasonably accurate colours, and the image can then be fine tuned in any
> image editing programme for brightness, sharpening etc.
>
> I have used the histogram adjustments as above for slides, colour
> negatives, and black and white negatives, and had good results from all 3.
>


From: Harry Stottle on

<marierdj(a)nb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>I have used your setting and I am very pleased with the results.
> Is this the only adjustment that need to be done or do you do any
> further adjustment before scanning.
>

I have had my scanner for about a week, and that's all the settings I
have been using since first setting it up. I have been happy with the
results obtained, so I have not had to bother with any further changes
Now that you are getting some good results, you could try upping the
resolution to 4800 for 35mm, to allow for larger image output, or
selective cropping, and if you have old or dust impregnated slides or
negs, experiment with digital ice, but if you do not have these
problems, then there is no need. You have a basic setting to work with
now, so you can experiment with the other settings to see what happens,
knowing that you can fall back to those basic settings if nothing
improves.

A lot of people experience problems with colour settings when using
different brands of film, and then buy further software like Vuescan or
Silverfast to try and overcome this, but using the histogram setting I
explained earlier seems to work OK for any make of film, and it is a lot
easier than trying to learn third party software.


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