Epson Photo Stylus 1200.
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From: John Vanini on 3 Apr 2008 18:55 Having had my Epson 810 printer problem solved (thanks to all and especially Art) can anyone help with my Epson Stylus Photo 1200 problem, please? There were no peas in this one! It's about the quality (or lack of it!!!) when it prints. I can't get the colours to be anything like what was scanned in and what is on the screen. The image prints far too dark but if I lighten the original then the colours come out nothing like the picture I either scanned in or pulled down from the Internet. For instance, the greens are still green but not as bright or as sharp but are very flat (the other colours are affected in the same way) and the picture looks dead. It's difficult to describe but I am always disappointed with the result. Originally, when I bought the printer, it was fine - it has deteriorated over the years and I don't know why. I have two questions, which I think might be relevant. The first is that the colour management (in 'Print' and then 'Properties') is set to 'Automatic' and the 'colour profile' is given as EE053_ 1 - there's no other choice. I assume that this profile is okay and that there aren't any other profiles I could, or should, be using - or are there? The second is that, under 'Image Color Management' I have three choices -: ICM method - ICM handled by Host System ICM Handled by printer ICM Disabled The first two don't seem to make any difference while the third is pretty dreadful. Can anyone suggest which one of the three would be best to select, please? At the moment, I've selected 'Host System' but as I say, neither of the first two seem any different. I'm sorry about the length of this posting but I wanted to give as much detail as I could and I hope this is enough. This is the last printer I have, honest, so won't be asking about any other! Regards, John
From: Roy G on 3 Apr 2008 21:04 "John Vanini" <john_vanini(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:rfdJj.37164$Ge4.15530(a)newsfe1-win.ntli.net... > Having had my Epson 810 printer problem solved (thanks to all and > especially Art) can anyone help with my Epson Stylus Photo 1200 problem, > please? There were no peas in this one! > > > > It's about the quality (or lack of it!!!) when it prints. I can't get the > colours to be anything like what was scanned in and what is on the screen. > The image prints far too dark but if I lighten the original then the > colours come out nothing like the picture I either scanned in or pulled > down from the Internet. For instance, the greens are still green but not > as bright or as sharp but are very flat (the other colours are affected in > the same way) and the picture looks dead. > > > > It's difficult to describe but I am always disappointed with the result. > Originally, when I bought the printer, it was fine - it has deteriorated > over the years and I don't know why. > > > > I have two questions, which I think might be relevant. The first is that > the colour management (in 'Print' and then 'Properties') is set to > 'Automatic' and the 'colour profile' is given as EE053_ 1 - there's no > other choice. I assume that this profile is okay and that there aren't any > other profiles I could, or should, be using - or are there? > > > > The second is that, under 'Image Color Management' I have three choices -: > > > > ICM method - ICM handled by Host System > > ICM Handled by printer > > ICM Disabled > > > > The first two don't seem to make any difference while the third is pretty > dreadful. > > > > Can anyone suggest which one of the three would be best to select, please? > At the moment, I've selected 'Host System' but as I say, neither of the > first two seem any different. > > > > > I'm sorry about the length of this posting but I wanted to give as much > detail as I could and I hope this is enough. > > > > This is the last printer I have, honest, so won't be asking about any > other! > > > > Regards, > > > > John > > Hi. The Epson 1200 is a fairly old printer. When the driver was installed it only installed one ICC Profile, whereas most of the newer printers will install around 6 Profiles, each of which is specific to one kind of Epson Paper. The Profile on your machine is designed for the old Epson Photo Paper, 194gm/sq M. The Paper packaging will specify that it is for use with Epson Photo 700 & EX, which are the A4 version of the 1200 and the 1200 EX It should give very reasonable results with that paper, provided you are using Epson Inks. That paper is not highly glossy and the colours will be slightly duller than the more modern printers, (1280 onwards), with the newer papers, (like Epson Premium Glossy). If you should want to use non Epson Inks and/or any other Paper, you would need to get someone to write a Profile for your combination. But that will only be worthwhile if you are using a Colour Management aware Program, like Photoshop, and know how to set it up. I do not know of any other ICC Profiles available for this machine, anywhere. In the meantime switch to "ICM handled by Printer" and use that old Paper. It is still available, but not every outlet carries it. I have recently been helping a friend who actually has 2 of these Printers and a plentiful supply of the paper. Hope this helps. Roy G
From: tomm42 on 4 Apr 2008 09:48 On Apr 3, 6:55 pm, "John Vanini" <john_van...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Having had my Epson 810 printer problem solved (thanks to all and especially > Art) can anyone help with my Epson Stylus Photo 1200 problem, please? There > were no peas in this one! > > It's about the quality (or lack of it!!!) when it prints. I can't get the > colours to be anything like what was scanned in and what is on the screen. > The image prints far too dark but if I lighten the original then the colours > come out nothing like the picture I either scanned in or pulled down from > the Internet. For instance, the greens are still green but not as bright or > as sharp but are very flat (the other colours are affected in the same way) > and the picture looks dead. > > It's difficult to describe but I am always disappointed with the result. > Originally, when I bought the printer, it was fine - it has deteriorated > over the years and I don't know why. > > I have two questions, which I think might be relevant. The first is that the > colour management (in 'Print' and then 'Properties') is set to 'Automatic' > and the 'colour profile' is given as EE053_ 1 - there's no other choice. I > assume that this profile is okay and that there aren't any other profiles I > could, or should, be using - or are there? > > The second is that, under 'Image Color Management' I have three choices -: > > ICM method - ICM handled by Host System > > ICM Handled by printer > > ICM Disabled > > The first two don't seem to make any difference while the third is pretty > dreadful. > > Can anyone suggest which one of the three would be best to select, please? > At the moment, I've selected 'Host System' but as I say, neither of the > first two seem any different. > > I'm sorry about the length of this posting but I wanted to give as much > detail as I could and I hope this is enough. > > This is the last printer I have, honest, so won't be asking about any other! > > Regards, > > John It is an 8+ year old printer, I have had 2, both broke down, carriage problems, had each repaired twice. Could be a couple of things, 1 is your print head has worn out, if this has gotten progressivly worse over time I'd look there. The othe problem is the print head carriage mechanism is worn out which would mean bad alignment of ink. Have you done any diagnostics, dye printers of that era would clog, so a print head check would be good, could be as simple as a clogged head. If the ink is smearing then the head is worn out. If you aren't printing from a program that is color management aware, then the profile in the printer properties matters. But generally the printer driver should allow you to set a profile. Better still is to print from a color management aware progam like Photoshop Elements, Photoshop, Paintshop Pro. Do yourself a favor and get an Epson 1400, it will have profiles for the more recent Epson papers. You have gotten a good life out of the 1200 BTW I bought my first one in 2000. Tom
From: Arthur Entlich on 4 Apr 2008 09:53 I haven't checked, but it is possible Epson has issued/developed new drivers with more profiles, and this is always worth checking. Check the Epson website for updates. Which OS are you using? The newest driver for XP is January 2005 at least on the UK website, which is fairly new. There are two profile files on the US website, but they do not mention XP and are from year 2000. [-] Inkjet Paper PANTONE Profiles v2.01 Windows 98, Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0 SP12201I.EXE - 869.5KB - posted on 01/03/00 This self-extracting file contains the Epson Stylus Photo 1200 PANTONE Color Calibrated profiles for Photo Quality Inkjet Paper. Please view the included "HowToWin.pdf" document for additional information. Download Now [-] Glossy Paper PANTONE Profiles v2.01 Windows 98, Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0 SP12201G.EXE - 875KB - posted on 01/03/00 This self-extracting file contains the Epson Stylus Photo 1200 Pantone Color Calibrated profiles for Photo Quality Glossy Paper. Please view the included "HowToWin.pdf" document for additional information. Download Now Art Roy G wrote: > "John Vanini" <john_vanini(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:rfdJj.37164$Ge4.15530(a)newsfe1-win.ntli.net... >> Having had my Epson 810 printer problem solved (thanks to all and >> especially Art) can anyone help with my Epson Stylus Photo 1200 problem, >> please? There were no peas in this one! >> >> >> >> It's about the quality (or lack of it!!!) when it prints. I can't get the >> colours to be anything like what was scanned in and what is on the screen. >> The image prints far too dark but if I lighten the original then the >> colours come out nothing like the picture I either scanned in or pulled >> down from the Internet. For instance, the greens are still green but not >> as bright or as sharp but are very flat (the other colours are affected in >> the same way) and the picture looks dead. >> >> >> >> It's difficult to describe but I am always disappointed with the result. >> Originally, when I bought the printer, it was fine - it has deteriorated >> over the years and I don't know why. >> >> >> >> I have two questions, which I think might be relevant. The first is that >> the colour management (in 'Print' and then 'Properties') is set to >> 'Automatic' and the 'colour profile' is given as EE053_ 1 - there's no >> other choice. I assume that this profile is okay and that there aren't any >> other profiles I could, or should, be using - or are there? >> >> >> >> The second is that, under 'Image Color Management' I have three choices -: >> >> >> >> ICM method - ICM handled by Host System >> >> ICM Handled by printer >> >> ICM Disabled >> >> >> >> The first two don't seem to make any difference while the third is pretty >> dreadful. >> >> >> >> Can anyone suggest which one of the three would be best to select, please? >> At the moment, I've selected 'Host System' but as I say, neither of the >> first two seem any different. >> >> >> >> >> I'm sorry about the length of this posting but I wanted to give as much >> detail as I could and I hope this is enough. >> >> >> >> This is the last printer I have, honest, so won't be asking about any >> other! >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> John >> >> > > Hi. > > The Epson 1200 is a fairly old printer. > > When the driver was installed it only installed one ICC Profile, whereas > most of the newer printers will install around 6 Profiles, each of which is > specific to one kind of Epson Paper. > > The Profile on your machine is designed for the old Epson Photo Paper, > 194gm/sq M. The Paper packaging will specify that it is for use with Epson > Photo 700 & EX, which are the A4 version of the 1200 and the 1200 EX > > It should give very reasonable results with that paper, provided you are > using Epson Inks. That paper is not highly glossy and the colours will be > slightly duller than the more modern printers, (1280 onwards), with the > newer papers, (like Epson Premium Glossy). > > If you should want to use non Epson Inks and/or any other Paper, you would > need to get someone to write a Profile for your combination. But that will > only be worthwhile if you are using a Colour Management aware Program, like > Photoshop, and know how to set it up. > > I do not know of any other ICC Profiles available for this machine, > anywhere. > > In the meantime switch to "ICM handled by Printer" and use that old Paper. > It is still available, but not every outlet carries it. > > I have recently been helping a friend who actually has 2 of these Printers > and a plentiful supply of the paper. > > Hope this helps. > > Roy G > >
From: Arthur Entlich on 4 Apr 2008 10:52
Make sure all 6 of the colors are working via a nozzle test. Often if one of the Cyan heads (light or dark) and or one of the magenta heads (light or dark) are clogged people don't notice it but the color will be way off. Art John Vanini wrote: > Having had my Epson 810 printer problem solved (thanks to all and especially > Art) can anyone help with my Epson Stylus Photo 1200 problem, please? There > were no peas in this one! > > > > It's about the quality (or lack of it!!!) when it prints. I can't get the > colours to be anything like what was scanned in and what is on the screen. > The image prints far too dark but if I lighten the original then the colours > come out nothing like the picture I either scanned in or pulled down from > the Internet. For instance, the greens are still green but not as bright or > as sharp but are very flat (the other colours are affected in the same way) > and the picture looks dead. > > > > It's difficult to describe but I am always disappointed with the result. > Originally, when I bought the printer, it was fine - it has deteriorated > over the years and I don't know why. > > > > I have two questions, which I think might be relevant. The first is that the > colour management (in 'Print' and then 'Properties') is set to 'Automatic' > and the 'colour profile' is given as EE053_ 1 - there's no other choice. I > assume that this profile is okay and that there aren't any other profiles I > could, or should, be using - or are there? > > > > The second is that, under 'Image Color Management' I have three choices -: > > > > ICM method - ICM handled by Host System > > ICM Handled by printer > > ICM Disabled > > > > The first two don't seem to make any difference while the third is pretty > dreadful. > > > > Can anyone suggest which one of the three would be best to select, please? > At the moment, I've selected 'Host System' but as I say, neither of the > first two seem any different. > > > > > I'm sorry about the length of this posting but I wanted to give as much > detail as I could and I hope this is enough. > > > > This is the last printer I have, honest, so won't be asking about any other! > > > > Regards, > > > > John > > |