From: Ivor Floppy on

"Davy" <davecoe(a)blueyonder.co-dot-uk.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
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> So why do Epson's clog with OEM inks then?
>

They don't - at least not for everybody they don't. Nor do they clog for
people using 3rd party inks.

Quite *why* some people have such problems and others don't remains a
mystery. Printer use, average relative humidity, temperature, ink
formulation / batch, printer model and probably a whole lot of other factors
play their part.

Luck seems to be involved up to a point too.





From: Burt on

"Arthur Entlich" <e-printerhelp(a)mvps.org> wrote in message
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> The difference is yours IS an opinion, and mine is factual data.
>
> The difference is you toss around your opinion as if it was fact, and I
> state facts.
>
> The difference is you libel companies, and you do so continually,
> regardless of how may times you have been brought to task about it. I
> make criticisms based upon knowledgeable constructs, and if I am shown to
> be incorrect, I retract or withdraw incorrect information.
>
> You provide misleading information, either due to ignorance, or
> maliciousness, I provide helpful and accurate information with the intent
> to advance the welfare of the person who asks for information.
>
> I am still waiting for something beyond your outbursts to explain your
> excuse for your libelous comments on this newsgroup.
>
> Your outbursts certainly seem to be "timed" to whenever anyone asks you to
> defend you statements. That's a tactic I expect from a 4 year old, not a
> Stanford grad. Which one are you really?
(snip)

When logic and facts fail him he responds with infantile, obscene, innane
comments. They wouldn't let this guy into Stanford to clean their toilets.


From: Davy on
I can well imagine humidiity etc will, obviously I aint got it near a
radiator and we don't grow icicles.

Batch problem, well Art said that all I can say is I got one printer
from one place (in the original Epson box), but the replacement cam
in a plain ol' brown box, minus carts with Epson security stickers,
someone suggested may have been a referb. unit, sure did look brand
new.

Having that said, the reason I got a C62 is I know someone who had a
C60, thats still going strong and with third party inks, we can all
accept the occassional head clean.

As you say; in my case they clogged with both inks which points the
finger at something else.

Briefly-; during the cleaniing cycle the ink purges into the inkwell,
if the level is high enough it's gonna 'ink' the heads, with 'mixed'
ink which MAY become thicker, this gets on to the heads, and as you
know the heads brush against rubber cleaning blades wiping and
pushing ink off and at the same time pushing it into the
nozzles...just theory I have.

But I aint gonna buy an Epson to find out.

I'll check the manuals to see whats different between the heads and
docking units between the C and CX series.

Davy

From: Arthur Entlich on
You keep on referring to ink building up in the cleaning station, but
the design doesn't allow that to happen the way you imply. The same
purge pump that creates the vacuum to apply to the heads to remove the
ink from the head nozzles is also the one that provides the vacuum to
suck the ink out of the cleaning station. The process occurs together.
If the purge pump isn't working or the connection fails (the tube
dislodges) then it doesn't create any vacuum and no ink comes out of the
head, so even though there ink could be then potentially stuck to drian
by gravity assistance only, there is no ink because the cleaning cycle
requires the vacuum which the is applied through that same tube.

Art



Davy wrote:

> I can well imagine humidiity etc will, obviously I aint got it near a
> radiator and we don't grow icicles.
>
> Batch problem, well Art said that all I can say is I got one printer
> from one place (in the original Epson box), but the replacement cam
> in a plain ol' brown box, minus carts with Epson security stickers,
> someone suggested may have been a referb. unit, sure did look brand
> new.
>
> Having that said, the reason I got a C62 is I know someone who had a
> C60, thats still going strong and with third party inks, we can all
> accept the occassional head clean.
>
> As you say; in my case they clogged with both inks which points the
> finger at something else.
>
> Briefly-; during the cleaniing cycle the ink purges into the inkwell,
> if the level is high enough it's gonna 'ink' the heads, with 'mixed'
> ink which MAY become thicker, this gets on to the heads, and as you
> know the heads brush against rubber cleaning blades wiping and
> pushing ink off and at the same time pushing it into the
> nozzles...just theory I have.
>
> But I aint gonna buy an Epson to find out.
>
> I'll check the manuals to see whats different between the heads and
> docking units between the C and CX series.
>
> Davy
>
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