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From: Shooter on 19 May 2005 08:11 You can still get round the problem of waste pads by fitting a waste bottle. When I say high volume users I refer mainly to CIS users. I am at a loss to under stand what is the meaning of " using the wrong machine" a printer is a printer and even if you take the less expensive end of the market most will still print one photo after another. "measekite" <measekite(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:_YOie.644$mK.294(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... > > > Shooter wrote: > > >I would say the person you say knows in fact has very little knowledge of > >how Epson's work otherwise they would know about waste pads and why an Epson > >has to be reset. Some people seem to think printers should run for ever and > >ever without service. You say you have never kept a printer that long > >because you upgraded, well that may also be true about Epson owners, having > >said that there are of course users who require a high output from their > >printers and it is this group that have to have machines reset even if they > >replace the pads themselves, I would think that many other makes would have > >given up completely well before an Epson requires a reset. > > > > > > These heavy users are probably using the wrong machine. I believe that > the new 2200 (I think or maybe the 7600) has a door in the side to pull > out and replace the pads as a consumable item like the ink is. > > > > >"Mike" <noot1967(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > >news:d6fqo2$2c6$1(a)nntp0.reith.bbc.co.uk... > > > > > >>Hi - I just had this statement emailed to me by somebody who ususally > >> > >> > >knows > > > > > >>about these things in a professional capacity: > >> > >>"Epsons are built to stop functioning when the internal counter reaches a > >>certain number, and you do need to be aware of this. Many people > >> > >> > >aren't.!!" > > > > > >>I find this very hard to believe - is it true? I have owned Epsons for > >> > >> > >many > > > > > >>years and never had much trouble with them - but I have never kept one > >>single printer for very long because I keep upgrading, so I might not have > >>reached the "fatal" number of prints on one machine. > >> > >>Cheers > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
From: Arthur Entlich on 19 May 2005 09:10 Yes, it is true. The number is called the protection number, and the reason for it is that it is supposed to indicate that the waste ink pads are full. I think this should be clearly stated in the manual or even in a more obvious place. Most to the point, the printer should warn you prior to this occurring and the actual reset and replacement of the ink pads should be a user serviceable part. Art Mike wrote: > Hi - I just had this statement emailed to me by somebody who ususally knows > about these things in a professional capacity: > > "Epsons are built to stop functioning when the internal counter reaches a > certain number, and you do need to be aware of this. Many people aren't.!!" > > I find this very hard to believe - is it true? I have owned Epsons for many > years and never had much trouble with them - but I have never kept one > single printer for very long because I keep upgrading, so I might not have > reached the "fatal" number of prints on one machine. > > Cheers > >
From: Arthur Entlich on 19 May 2005 09:20 Unfortunately, newer Epson printers no longer can be set by front panel button presses, and require proprietary programs from Epson or elsewhere to accomplish. Art Ivor Floppy wrote: > > > Nothing unusual - they have a waste ink pad inside to catch the ink used > during cleaning cycles and when purging the printhead either when starting a > print job or when the ink carts have been changed.. when that waste ink pad > is full the printer stops working the pad is changed and the counter reset. > If that didn't happen you end up with ink spilling out all over your desk. > > In the case of Epson printers its generally easy to reset the counter, but > getting to the waste ink pads to replace or clean them can be a tricky > process depending on the model.. and as far as I know Canon printers can't > be reset and have to be sent in for repair or simply thrown away. > > >
From: Arthur Entlich on 19 May 2005 09:30 No, this refers to the waste ink protection numbers. It does count droplets or volume of ink estimated to be sent to the waste ink pads, and when the number is reached, the printer becomes unable to communicate with the computer anymore and the LEDS all flash. Older Epson printers had a series of front panel button presses to reset the EEPROM for this, the new ones need a service call. The pads eventually do need replacement, and it is a messy and major dismantling to have it done. With moderate use, this number is not reached for several years. Art Ron Cohen wrote: > I don't think this means the printer has self destruct logic. I suspect what > he meant is that there is a counter for the ink cartridges which estimates > the number of droplets so as to prevent head damage from out of ink > conditions. Installation of fresh cartridges resets the counter. > Ron > > "Mike" <noot1967(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:d6fqo2$2c6$1(a)nntp0.reith.bbc.co.uk... > >>Hi - I just had this statement emailed to me by somebody who ususally >>knows about these things in a professional capacity: >> >>"Epsons are built to stop functioning when the internal counter reaches a >>certain number, and you do need to be aware of this. Many people >>aren't.!!" >> >>I find this very hard to believe - is it true? I have owned Epsons for >>many years and never had much trouble with them - but I have never kept >>one single printer for very long because I keep upgrading, so I might not >>have reached the "fatal" number of prints on one machine. >> >>Cheers >> > > >
From: Arthur Entlich on 19 May 2005 10:09
The 7600 is a 24" wide machine designed for poster sized prints and is built for industrial use, using 110 and 220 ml ink cartridges, and costing well over $1000. These units (7600, 9600, 10000 series) do have a user serviceable waste ink "box" but even that is chipped to require people to stick with an Epson product. and to not reuse the old one. This is one of my pet peeves with Epson printers. As I have often said, I like certain things about Epsons and I hate certain things about Epsons. Art measekite wrote: > > > Shooter wrote: > >> I would say the person you say knows in fact has very little knowledge of >> how Epson's work otherwise they would know about waste pads and why an >> Epson >> has to be reset. Some people seem to think printers should run for >> ever and >> ever without service. You say you have never kept a printer that long >> because you upgraded, well that may also be true about Epson owners, >> having >> said that there are of course users who require a high output from their >> printers and it is this group that have to have machines reset even if >> they >> replace the pads themselves, I would think that many other makes would >> have >> given up completely well before an Epson requires a reset. >> >> > > These heavy users are probably using the wrong machine. I believe that > the new 2200 (I think or maybe the 7600) has a door in the side to pull > out and replace the pads as a consumable item like the ink is. > >> >> "Mike" <noot1967(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:d6fqo2$2c6$1(a)nntp0.reith.bbc.co.uk... >> >> >>> Hi - I just had this statement emailed to me by somebody who ususally >>> >> >> knows >> >> >>> about these things in a professional capacity: >>> >>> "Epsons are built to stop functioning when the internal counter >>> reaches a >>> certain number, and you do need to be aware of this. Many people >>> >> >> aren't.!!" >> >> >>> I find this very hard to believe - is it true? I have owned Epsons for >>> >> >> many >> >> >>> years and never had much trouble with them - but I have never kept one >>> single printer for very long because I keep upgrading, so I might not >>> have >>> reached the "fatal" number of prints on one machine. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> |