For the *LAST* time, please, what Linux distro for an old PC with 48 MB RAM?
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From: Paul Colquhoun on 20 Jul 2008 07:09 On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:24:16 -0700 (PDT), raylopez99 <raylopez99(a)yahoo.com> wrote: | On Jul 19, 12:17�pm, Michael Black <et...(a)ncf.ca> wrote: | |> Some of us have never run Windows. |> |> Indeed, when I was given this hand me down 1GHz Pentium at the end of |> 2003, Windows stayed on it about two days, sitting there while I prepared |> to move over to the new machine. �Other than those two times I tried |> out the machine with Windows on it (and boy, was it difficult to do |> things, I had to get out the books to figure out how to do things, and I |> couldn't find things and it was all so different than trusty Linux), |> Windows was gone. �I did not bother setting it up to dual-boot, too much |> trouble for little return. |> | | You remind me of me when I try Unix--I have to pull out a book to use | it. Or type 'man' and try and read fast as several pages of text fly | by on the screen. | | You ever think perhaps that if 99% of the world is not using Linux, | that maybe, just maybe, 99% of the world has got it right? Food for | thought. Most of that 99% don't use a computer at all. Maybe they *have* got it right! On the other hand, most of that 99% are living in poverty. Why don't you give that a try for a while. Let us know how it turns out, in 10 years or so. -- Reverend Paul Colquhoun, ULC. http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol Asking for technical help in newsgroups? Read this first: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro
From: Tom A. on 20 Jul 2008 08:49 raylopez99 wrote: > > You remind me of me when I try Unix--I have to pull out a book to use > it. Or type 'man' and try and read fast as several pages of text fly > by on the screen. > > You ever think perhaps that if 99% of the world is not using Linux, > that maybe, just maybe, 99% of the world has got it right? Food for > thought. > You remind me of a teenager whining to his mother, "Aw Mom, everybody else is doing it!" I'll answer you the same way my wife and I answer our kids: "If everybody else is jumping off a cliff, would you jump off it, too?" Tom A. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
From: Baho Utot on 20 Jul 2008 08:54 Tom A. wrote: > raylopez99 wrote: >> >> You remind me of me when I try Unix--I have to pull out a book to use >> it. Or type 'man' and try and read fast as several pages of text fly >> by on the screen. >> >> You ever think perhaps that if 99% of the world is not using Linux, >> that maybe, just maybe, 99% of the world has got it right? Food for >> thought. >> > You remind me of a teenager whining to his mother, "Aw Mom, everybody > else is doing it!" I'll answer you the same way my wife and I answer our > kids: > > "If everybody else is jumping off a cliff, would you jump off it, too?" > > Tom A. > ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** We can only hope -- Tayo'y mga Pinoy
From: JEDIDIAH on 21 Jul 2008 09:15 On 2008-07-21, TJ <TJ(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > Psyc Geek (TAB) wrote: >> On Jul 20, 4:18 pm, Whirled Peas <p...(a)earth.org> wrote: >>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:55:49 -0700, raylopez99 wrote: >>>> My objective >>>> is not for this machine but for the target machine, which is a Pentium >>>> II - 200 MHZ (not my machine, but a friend's). >>>> RL >> >> >> Use the Atari OS >> > Which one? TOS only works on Motorola 68000 family CPUs, and the 8-bit > OS uses a 6502 processor and proprietary chips. I don't think either > will work on a Pentium. > > Oh, wait - you're trying to be funny. You failed. Actually, if you hadn't just fallen off the turnip truck yesterday you would know that "the Atari OS" also had an x86 version that was around about the same time that a 200Mhz machine was something that might be considered current. [deletia] -- Nothing quite gives you an understanding of mysql's ||| popularity as does an attempt to do some simple date / | \ manipulations in postgres. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com
From: The Ghost In The Machine on 21 Jul 2008 14:47
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, raylopez99 <raylopez99(a)yahoo.com> wrote on Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:00:26 -0700 (PDT) <3a7eb39a-bbf0-4b85-8887-63888fe3bf2d(a)d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>: > On Jul 18, 3:42�pm, The Ghost In The Machine > <ew...(a)sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote: >> >> Oh no, we can find *plenty* of Linux distros that will >> run *very* slow on an old PC with only 48 MB RAM. > > Today Ghost? Or yesteryear? If today, please mention some (other > than DSL, which I know about, or confirm DSL might work). Anything that installs KDE or Gnome, presumably. My nx9010 for instance has swallowed up 129 MB or so during bootup, and I've not even logged in yet beyond using ssh. To be fair, apache2 and postmaster are using 33MB and 24MB, respectively, but the amount left over -- about 62MB -- is still too much for your box. (This is a fairly standard Gentoo config, methinks.) With Xfce, one should get a smaller footprint. > > >> >> No, it shouldn't take 10 minutes for a Windows machine to >> boot up (even that relic); your friend's machine is most >> likely infected. >> > > No, it's not infected and I didn't time it, but it seemed like 10 > minutes. OK. > >> > PS/2 Keyboard and USB mouse. �Cheap $15 video card. >> >> Cheap, non-specific, totally undocumented video card. >> And you expect us to do something intelligent? > > I have another decent ATI video card that I got for $50 and never > used, so if the video card is a problem I can swap it out. ATI might help in certain subareas, such as 3D graphics. I still don't think it'll run compiz all that well though. > > >> > More specifically, is there *any* Linux distro that will work with >> > such puny RAM? �I am skeptical. >> >> Nope, none at all. �You'll have to get more RAM or reinstall Win2k. >> I'd suggest 2 GB; you'll want Vista on that. >> > > AHa! For a minute I thought you were serious. I still don't have a clue as to what you want to do with this machine, apart from disposing of it -- responsibly, I hope. > >> > Oh, for you conspiracy nuts that think I'm just a troll who makes up >> > stuff, this machine is different from the other target machine of the >> > prior six (6) threads on this topic--this is just my old machine in >> > mothballs that I'm ready to trash but want to test Linux on it. >> >> Ah, OK. �Not that it matters; the other machine had a little more oomph. >> >> Your next machine should be a 386/20 4 MB board. �(It would >> be 8 MB but SIPs are apparently nonexistent nowadays.) >> I think I can put a Trident on there, or maybe a 6845 >> (640 x 200 or 320 x 200 x 4, woo, colorful). �I'd have >> to hunt up an IDE controller now. >> >> C'mon. �You know you want to ask. >> > > Linux on the original 8088--that would be something. Impossible; the design wouldn't take it. Linux was originally designed for a 386, as Linus' original missive makes very clear: http://www.linux.org/people/linus_post.html (The multiple hardware capability came a little later; I don't know precisely when.) There are alternatives that will work on an 8088, such as Minix 2, but those aren't true Linux (though might be of interest to the dedicated hacker [*]). The 80286 does not have 32-bit flat address space capability, though they did extend the iNtel paragraphing. The 80186 basically dropped dead. > > RL [*] in its original sense, not in the "cracker"/"phreaker" sense so many confuse the term "hacker" with nowadays. See, for instance, http://www.homebrewcpu.org/ -- which is IMO a very tasty, if currently not all that useful, hack; the machine is reminiscent of IMSAI in its heyday, though with a totally different instruction set. -- #191, ewill3(a)earthlink.net If your CPU can't stand the heat, get another fan. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |