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From: raylopez99 on 17 Jul 2008 15:55
General Schvantzkopf- I thank you for your time. I am copying myself
with this thread and intend to implement it when I'm at the target
machine.

Unfortunately, the six .ISO files that you referenced with a link
would take several hours to download (for some reason, though I have
DSL, and for some reason 'bit torrent' works faster for me but I'm not
quite sure what file to download for Bittorrent). Therefore, I've
decided to bite the bullet and order, for $10 + shipping, the six CDs
for CentOS5.2 from CheapBytes (order info below for anybody else
reading this thread).

As for upgrading the HD, if you can be so kind to briefly tell me
whether, on a bare new 40 GB HD, if I plug the new HD in, set the
right jumpers etc for it to be a master drive, and boot from a Linux
CD (to do a clean install) whether, with my old BIOS, I will be able
(or the LInux installation program will be able) to 'view' the new HD
(which will be clean or zeroed out, so nothing on it--it will probably
be formatted FAT16, but that should not matter since I imagine Linux
will reformat it anyway).

If so, if LInux can 'see' the bigger HD even though the BIOS cannot
recognize it, then it will save me having to either upgrade the BIOS
and/or buy a IDE PCI controller card (which I read on the net is how
to get Windows to 'see' a bigger HD than before).

I appreciate your time and patience.

RL

On Jul 17, 6:10 am, General Schvantzkopf <schvantzk...(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:25:43 -0700, raylopez99 wrote:
> > On Jul 16, 4:28 pm, General Schvantzkopf <schvantzk...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> Ray,
> > For CentOS5.2, I checked
> >http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/index.php?
> os=centos
> > and some of the public download sites at:http://www.kernel.org/, but
> > could not find where you can download a single .ISO file (I did find
> > where apparently you can compile some source code to do the same thing,
> > and, while I do have MSFT Visual Studio 2005 compiler, compiling is
> > tricky with all the different swtiches, so I rather just download a
> > complete ISO file ready to go).
>
> Here are the ISOs, you need 6 isos for CDs, 1 for DVD. This is a complete
> distro which is why it's so big, it includes everything that you could
> ever want. The LiveCD is only one iso but that won't do the job for you
> because you would have to download at least a few hundred bytes more
> after you did the install to get the additional packages that you would
> need.
>
> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/centos/5.2/isos/i386/
>
> > Can I bother you one last time (and thanks for your help so far), *if*
> > it's easy to do, for you to give me the link to the .ISO file?  Or, as I
> > suspect from the CheapBytes store, no free ISO file exists, but you have
> > to order from CheapBytes? (perhaps the developers of CentOS5.2 want it
> > that way).  I might just have to spend the $0.99 + shipping (shipping is
> > usually $10) to pay for it, if not.  Thanks in advance General.
>
> I don't know and I don't care, it's still cheap and it will save you the
> downloading time. Your alternative is to take a laptop to a Starbucks and
> download the ISOs yourself. The problem with that is that at $5 a latte
> you'll spend more on coffee than you will ordering the CDs from
> Cheapbytes.
>
> >> You can't use Fedora or
> >> Ubuntu without broadband, the number of updates will kill you.
>

>
> CentOS 5.2 is a modern distro also, it uses an older version of Gnome but
> it does most of the same things.  Don't worry, 512M is enough to run ANY
> Linux distro. Linux isn't Vista, it can run on machines with small
> amounts of memory. I have Fedora 8 on a PIII with 384M, it's fine for
> basic things. My reason for recommending CentOS was not that it's aimed
> at old machines, it's not, but because it's completely solid out of the
> box and doesn't need a huge amount of updating. You could put CentOS on
> the system and never update it if you want. Take my word for it, if you
> have 512M it will run fine.
>
> > EXCELLENT!!! I assume Cent0S 5.2 has a GUI (KDE/Knome), and either comes
> > with some word processor and some web browser, as well as some sort of

>
> It has Gnome, it has OpenOffice, it has Firefox, it has Evolution (e-
> mail). Every Linux distro ever shipped could handle a dial up modem,
> CentOS 5.2 will do it easily.

> >> You can by a set of CentOS 5.2 CDs for $9
>
> >>http://shop.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart/os2.html?
>
> var_distribution=CentOS
>
> > BTW, do you think CentOS 5.2 fits on a 2 or 3 GB HD?  Or should I
> > upgrade (if the BIOS allows to a bigger old drive)?
>
> You can't put any full distro on a 2G drive, forget about it. LiveCDs can
> operate on something that size because they are stripped down and they
> are compressed. I could install a LiveCD to a 2G drive, in fact putting
> them on a 1G USB FLASH drive is done all the time, but it's beyond your
> capabilities. You have to do a standard install and that takes more than
> 2G. A 40G drive would be more than enough and there is no question that
> your BIOS can handle a 40G drive. BTW the BIOS limitations apply to
> Windows only, Linux doesn't use the BIOS to talk to drives, it uses it's
> own drivers. As a result Linux can handle bigger drives on very old
> machines than Windows can.

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From: General Schvantzkopf on 17 Jul 2008 17:55
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:55:29 -0700, raylopez99 wrote:

Yes the CentOS installer will see the new hard drive. The first thing you
will have to do is to partition the drive. You will have a choice of a
default partitioning or a custom partitioning . I always do a custom
partitioning, you might want to let it do it for you and choose default.
I make it a practice of always creating two root partitions (8G each on
small disks, 16G on big ones), one for the current install which you
would call /, and one for a future install (you can call that and thing
you want, /os for example). I generally create a SWAP partition that's 2X
the RAM size, in your case it would be 1G. The remainder of the disk
becomes /home.

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