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From: Kerem G�mr�kc� on 2 May 2008 20:45 Hi, i have a situation here which is really true. I have a old laptop, running windows 2000 professional and there is no space left for the DDK from Microsoft. I want to write and test some (simple, monolithic) drivers, targeting 2000/XP/Vista which handle a special device over USB. So the situation is that i dont have a lot of space for ddk on my machine and i am looking for a way to write a driver, compile it into a native image and all this WITHOUT the MS DDK. Is there such a way, a minimal package of compilers, headers, not bigger than 200 MB? I already have livekd and WinDbg here, but no compiler so far and no environment. The environment should be as small as possible and the compiler should be capable of inline assembly. Is something like this available somewhere? I am not kidding, i really have no space left here on the machine. This may sound funny but this is really the situation. Regards Kerem -- ----------------------- Beste Gr�sse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue Kerem G�mr�kc� Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de ----------------------- "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied."
From: Maxim S. Shatskih on 3 May 2008 03:18 Install only 1 WDK build env, without documentation (available online) and samples. How many MBs will it occupy? -- Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP StorageCraft Corporation maxim(a)storagecraft.com http://www.storagecraft.com "Kerem G�mr�kc�" <kareem114(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eymZ8cLrIHA.4376(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi, > > i have a situation here which is really true. I have a > old laptop, running windows 2000 professional > and there is no space left for the DDK from Microsoft. > I want to write and test some (simple, monolithic) > drivers, targeting 2000/XP/Vista which handle a > special device over USB. So the situation is that > i dont have a lot of space for ddk on my machine > and i am looking for a way to write a driver, compile > it into a native image and all this WITHOUT the > MS DDK. Is there such a way, a minimal package > of compilers, headers, not bigger than 200 MB? > I already have livekd and WinDbg here, but no compiler > so far and no environment. The environment should > be as small as possible and the compiler should > be capable of inline assembly. Is something like this > available somewhere? > > > I am not kidding, i really have no space left > here on the machine. This may sound funny > but this is really the situation. > > Regards > > Kerem > > > -- > ----------------------- > Beste Gr�sse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue > Kerem G�mr�kc� > Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ > Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de > ----------------------- > "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." > > >
From: Pavel A. on 3 May 2008 14:24 ?? Kerem are you writing from a jail in Turkey? :) Unfortunatley Maxim is too optimistic. Only for bin, inc and lib directories of WDK 6000 you'll need > 900 MB - this is uncompressed and for all architectures. So maybe you need to copy ony the includes and libs needed for your project from the full setup of WDK. Another option: connect an external drive. Your machine has USB. --PA "Kerem G�mr�kc�" <kareem114(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eymZ8cLrIHA.4376(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi, > > i have a situation here which is really true. I have a > old laptop, running windows 2000 professional > and there is no space left for the DDK from Microsoft. > I want to write and test some (simple, monolithic) > drivers, targeting 2000/XP/Vista which handle a > special device over USB. So the situation is that > i dont have a lot of space for ddk on my machine > and i am looking for a way to write a driver, compile > it into a native image and all this WITHOUT the > MS DDK. Is there such a way, a minimal package > of compilers, headers, not bigger than 200 MB? > I already have livekd and WinDbg here, but no compiler > so far and no environment. The environment should > be as small as possible and the compiler should > be capable of inline assembly. Is something like this > available somewhere? > > > I am not kidding, i really have no space left > here on the machine. This may sound funny > but this is really the situation. > > Regards > > Kerem > > > -- > ----------------------- > Beste Gr�sse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue > Kerem G�mr�kc� > Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ > Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de > ----------------------- > "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied." > > >
From: Kerem G�mr�kc� on 3 May 2008 14:54 Hi Pavel, >?? Kerem are you writing from a jail in Turkey? :) no, i am sure even they have Vista there now. :-D No, i am a Developer in Germany, currently an "inmate" in a company where the Laptops are still W2K and other machines already XP or Vista BE. The Laptops are very old, especially on the area where i work at the moment. The question was, whether this is possible or not. Sure i can copy anything from the ddk and "pack" my own set of compilers and tools. But as the question implied, i was looking for some already available minimal package i could possibly use. Well, then i have to pack everything on a big 2GB USB stick and work from there, as you told me. The external drives even dont work on the old USB buses on the laptops, it must be 1.0 or 1.1 USB, because you have to power the drives from an external current supply...and i dont want this. The portable usb devices (sticks) work. So i have to depend on them,... Does the DDK "pack" depend on any registry entries, in the case i install everything on the stick on another system and plug it into the laptop on another system? Will it work? Regards Kerem -- -- ----------------------- Beste Gr�sse / Best regards / Votre bien devoue Kerem G�mr�kc� Microsoft Live Space: http://kerem-g.spaces.live.com/ Latest Open-Source Projects: http://entwicklung.junetz.de ----------------------- "This reply is provided as is, without warranty express or implied."
From: Pavel A. on 3 May 2008 15:14 "Kerem G�mr�kc�" <kareem114(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Ou0co9UrIHA.4952(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... ...... > Well, then i have to pack everything on a big 2GB USB > stick and work from there, as you told me. The external > drives even dont work on the old USB buses on the > laptops, it must be 1.0 or 1.1 USB, because you have to > power the drives from an external current supply...and > i dont want this. The portable usb devices (sticks) work. > So i have to depend on them,... USB 1.1 is very slow. Get Cardbus to USB 2.0 adapter, if you can. > Does the DDK "pack" depend on any registry entries, in > the case i install everything on the stick on another system > and plug it into the laptop on another system? Will it work? AFAIK no. Just delete everything you don't need (Itanium, x64 stuff, src samples...) Use NTFS compression on .h and .lib files ... --PA
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