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From: cbarn24050 on 23 Apr 2008 15:25 On Apr 23, 2:02�pm, Peter Glar <Pe...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi > > I am a post graduate student, who is doing quite some "theoretic" work > at the moment. So in some way I also wanna collect some practical > experience for the embedded system domain. I have done some programming > with pic and nec microprocessors and I wanna get more experience in this > field. So I was thinking of AVR or ARM processors to program. Are there > any "simulation" tools out there that I could use for learning purposes? > And anyone an idea whats the best way to get an deeper insight in this > topic for example what kind of projects I could do that have a good > learning effect? > > Many thanks, > Peter Pick your project first, then the hardware. The skill is implementing something functional not on how big a chip you can use.
From: Anton Erasmus on 23 Apr 2008 17:35 On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:50:42 GMT, "Moon Shine" <4moonshine(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >"Tim Wescott" <tim(a)seemywebsite.com> wrote in message >news:6tmdnSAPMvA2x5LVnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d(a)web-ster.com... >> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:15:41 -0700, John Speth wrote: >> >>>> I am a post graduate student, who is doing quite some "theoretic" work >>>> at the moment. So in some way I also wanna collect some practical >>>> experience for the embedded system domain. I have done some programming >>>> with pic and nec microprocessors and I wanna get more experience in >>>> this field. So I was thinking of AVR or ARM processors to program. Are >>>> there any "simulation" tools out there that I could use for learning >>>> purposes? And anyone an idea whats the best way to get an deeper >>>> insight in this topic for example what kind of projects I could do that >>>> have a good learning effect? >>> >>> IMO, the best simulation tools are the real thing. Get any one of the >>> low cost ARM eval/dev boards from Keil which include a worthy but >>> limited IDE. Usually one picks a simulation tool when the hardware is >>> absent but that excuse is negated with the large bounty of ARM eval/dev >>> boards available. >>> >>> I have much less experience with AVR but I'm nearly certain you can >>> easily obtain eval boards and dev SW as readily as ARM. >>> >>> JJS >> >> Or look at Luminary Micro -- they have some pretty impressive features on >> their $50 board. >> >> You should also choose a project to work toward, if you can. A mini sumo >> robot, a fish-tank thermal control, whatever, just something real. This >> should motivate you, and give you something to bring along to interviews >> -- nothing says "I really build stuff" quicker than pulling something >> that you built out of your briefcase. > >Luminary is a small outfit. If interested in the Cortex ARM >then SGS has parts now. > >AVR is excellent path. Purchase the STK500/600 eval board for $80. >Then download the WINAVR package from www.avrfreaks.net >and you have a full blown GCC C compiler with IDE for free. >I've used this combo and its alot of band for your buck (no bucks!). You can a very nice dev kit from raisonance for the ST Cortex Chips. It comes with arm-elf-gcc with an IDE which includes a JTAG debugger with a limit of 32K. It is available for $49 from digikey. Look at http://www.stm32circle.com for details. Regards Anton Erasmus
From: Tim Wescott on 23 Apr 2008 21:16 On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:59:06 +0000, Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote: > Peter Glar wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I am a post graduate student, who is doing quite some "theoretic" work >> at the moment. So in some way I also wanna collect some practical >> experience for the embedded system domain. I have done some programming >> with pic and nec microprocessors and I wanna get more experience in >> this field. So I was thinking of AVR or ARM processors to program. Are >> there any "simulation" tools out there that I could use for learning >> purposes? And anyone an idea whats the best way to get an deeper >> insight in this topic for example what kind of projects I could do that >> have a good learning effect? > > I am a high school student, who is doing quite some "theoretic" work > with women at the moment. I want to collect some practical experience > about sex. Are there any simulation tools that I could use for the > learning purposes? > > VLV There are crude* simulation tools, but frankly, if you haven't found them by now perhaps you're not destined for that fate? * boy, _that_ can be interpreted on more than one level! -- Tim Wescott Control systems and communications consulting http://www.wescottdesign.com Need to learn how to apply control theory in your embedded system? "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" by Tim Wescott Elsevier/Newnes, http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html
From: Vladimir Vassilevsky on 23 Apr 2008 21:30 Tim Wescott wrote: > On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:59:06 +0000, Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote: > > >>Peter Glar wrote: >> >>>I am a post graduate student, who is doing quite some "theoretic" work >>>at the moment. So in some way I also wanna collect some practical >>>experience for the embedded system domain. >>I am a high school student, who is doing quite some "theoretic" work >>with women at the moment. I want to collect some practical experience >>about sex. Are there any simulation tools that I could use for the >>learning purposes? >> > > > There are crude* simulation tools, but frankly, if you haven't found them > by now perhaps you're not destined for that fate? > > * boy, _that_ can be interpreted on more than one level! A wiggler or a byteblaster would probably help. VLV
From: John B on 24 Apr 2008 12:49
On 24/04/2008 Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote: > > > Tim Wescott wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:59:06 +0000, Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote: > > > > > > > Peter Glar wrote: > > > > > > > I am a post graduate student, who is doing quite some > > > > "theoretic" work at the moment. So in some way I also wanna > > > > collect some practical experience for the embedded system > > > > domain. > > > > I am a high school student, who is doing quite some "theoretic" > > > work with women at the moment. I want to collect some practical > > > experience about sex. Are there any simulation tools that I could > > > use for the learning purposes? > > > > > > > > > There are crude* simulation tools, but frankly, if you haven't > > found them by now perhaps you're not destined for that fate? > > > > * boy, that can be interpreted on more than one level! > > A wiggler or a byteblaster would probably help. > > VLV PG asked about 'simulation tools' not 'tool stimulation'. -- John B |