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From: Michael Mattias on 27 Jan 2008 09:18
>> L H Record low
>>1/19 -2 6 -2
>>1/20 -4 10 -4
>>1/21 10 28 -2
>>1/22 10 30 3
>>1/23 7 16 -2
>>1/24 -2 10 0
>>1/25 -2 1
>
> Having been to Chi-town in the winter, I would have thought the
> records were a lot lower than that.

Even though the 'official' temperature is taken at O'Hare Field well to the
western edge of Cook County, Lake Michigan is still a 'warming influence' on
winter temperatures. (The lake is about 20 miles from O'Hare as the crow
flies. Of course, crows are not dumb enough to fly around when it gets this
cold)

And by the way, if you don't think zero is cold, take a walk around the
block next time gets this way. For extra credit, do NOT walk facing backward
when your circuit reaches its "directly into the wind" leg.


MCM








From: Judson McClendon on 27 Jan 2008 09:37
"tlmfru" <lacey(a)mts.net> wrote:
> Making much of record low temperatures in one tiny locality doesn't get one
> very far. The earth is far from uniform at that level of consideration so
> you'd logically expect all sorts of variation. The AVERAGE temperature of
> the whole earth's surface is what's important.

However, checking 1,000 year old tree rings or ice cores from tiny
localities apparently is a valid technique for proving global warming. ;-)

> Paul Knudsen <pknudsen(a)NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>> Robert <no(a)e.mail> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > L H Record low
>> >1/19 -2 6 -2
>> >1/20 -4 10 -4
>> >1/21 10 28 -2
>> >1/22 10 30 3
>> >1/23 7 16 -2
>> >1/24 -2 10 0
>> >1/25 -2 1
>>
>> Having been to Chi-town in the winter, I would have thought the
>> records were a lot lower than that.
>
>


From: Doug Miller on 27 Jan 2008 09:54
In article <5h8op3h67shs8ke3l0peinksc3mqt89q2o(a)4ax.com>, Robert <no(a)e.mail> wrote:

>If you want cold, go to Duluth or International Falls MN, where the NORMAL
> AVERAGE January
>low is -20 and the record is -45. They're having a heat wave right now, it's 7.
>
>Given that people can live anywhere they want, why does anyone choose to live
> in Duluth?

I'm guessing you've never lived in a cold climate before. People *do* get used
to it.

And brutally cold winters do help some, in keeping riff-raff away.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
From: Judson McClendon on 27 Jan 2008 10:02
"Michael Mattias" <mmattias(a)talsystems.com> wrote:
>>> L H Record low
>>>1/19 -2 6 -2
>>>1/20 -4 10 -4
>>>1/21 10 28 -2
>>>1/22 10 30 3
>>>1/23 7 16 -2
>>>1/24 -2 10 0
>>>1/25 -2 1
>>
>> Having been to Chi-town in the winter, I would have thought the
>> records were a lot lower than that.
>
> Even though the 'official' temperature is taken at O'Hare Field well to the western edge of Cook County, Lake Michigan is still a
> 'warming influence' on winter temperatures. (The lake is about 20 miles from O'Hare as the crow flies. Of course, crows are not
> dumb enough to fly around when it gets this cold)
>
> And by the way, if you don't think zero is cold, take a walk around the block next time gets this way. For extra credit, do NOT
> walk facing backward when your circuit reaches its "directly into the wind" leg.

I had a friend in the USAF who was from Kodiak, Alaska. He said the
temperatures there were often -30 F, but that it was usually so dry, when
the wind wasn't blowing they could go out for 5 minutes or so in their
shirt sleeves without getting too chilled, if the show didn't get them wet.
They don't call Chicago "the Windy City" for nothing. :-)

For those not familiar with "lake effect snow", areas around the Great
Lakes get lots of snow because the winds over the lakes pick up humidity
and drop much of it as snow over the surrounding area.
--
Judson McClendon judmc(a)sunvaley0.com (remove zero)
Sun Valley Systems http://sunvaley.com
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that
whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."


From: Michael Mattias on 27 Jan 2008 10:21
"Doug Miller" <spambait(a)milmac.com> wrote in message
news:sW0nj.1483$uE.149(a)newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
> And brutally cold winters do help some, in keeping riff-raff away.

Yeah, for sure. The mosquitos don't show up until late June and they are
gone by Labor Day.


MCM


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