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From: tlmfru on 27 Jan 2008 14:52

Judson McClendon <judmc(a)sunvaley0.com> wrote in message
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> "tlmfru" <lacey(a)mts.net> wrote:
> > Making much of record low temperatures in one tiny locality doesn't get
one
> > very far. The earth is far from uniform at that level of consideration
so
> > you'd logically expect all sorts of variation. The AVERAGE temperature
of
> > the whole earth's surface is what's important.
>
> However, checking 1,000 year old tree rings or ice cores from tiny
> localities apparently is a valid technique for proving global warming. ;-)
>

They are, so long as they're correlated with all the other such records.
Nobody is so silly as to say that the old oak at the corner of 11th &
Phblatt represents the whole world.

PL


From: Pete Dashwood on 27 Jan 2008 16:35


"Doug Miller" <spambait(a)milmac.com> wrote in message
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> In article <5h8op3h67shs8ke3l0peinksc3mqt89q2o(a)4ax.com>, Robert
> <no(a)e.mail> wrote:
>
>>If you want cold, go to Duluth or International Falls MN, where the NORMAL
>> AVERAGE January
>>low is -20 and the record is -45. They're having a heat wave right now,
>>it's 7.
>>
>>Given that people can live anywhere they want, why does anyone choose to
>>live
>> in Duluth?
>
> I'm guessing you've never lived in a cold climate before. People *do* get
> used
> to it.
>
> And brutally cold winters do help some, in keeping riff-raff away.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

I just browsed this thread very quickly.

The two coldest places I have ever been were Calgary, Alberta (-18) and
Minneapolis, Minnesota (-15).

I've been in Yorkshire when it was -10 and London when it was -6.

I think a lot depends on the wind, the clothing you have available, and how
well prepared generally the community is for a cold snap (central heating in
buildings and cars, roads cleared of ice, etc.)

Here in Tauranga winter temperatures wouldn't go much below 10C and summer
averages around 24C. (It is officially "Temperate sub-tropical")

Different folks like different strokes, but, for myself, I prefer heat to
cold.

The hottest places I've ever been were New Delhi, India (43C) and Dacca,
Bangla Desh (42C), although Australia can get into the 40s (and that is just
around the edges of it, hate to think what the interior must be like :-))

Someone mentioned that for Chicago, official temperatures are taken at
O'Hare, which is affected by the lake. We have the same problem here.
Official temperatures are taken at Tauranga airport, which is right by the
sea, located to have prevailing winds, and they take the temperature at 3
pm. Recently, we have been having a really pleasant warm spell which has
driven holidaymakers to the beaches (thank Heavens they all go home this
week and we get our town back... :-)). The "official" temperatures were
around 25C, but shopkeers in town were measuring 35C and my own thermometer
maxxed at 34C. (It was hot...:-))

Anyway, I'll think of you all this afternoon (I don't drink until the sun's
over the yardarm :-)) as I raise yet another frosted glass of JD and toddle
off for a bit of body surfing in the translucent blue Pacific... :-)

Pete.
--
"I used to write COBOL... Now I can do anything."



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