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From: Tom Serface on 25 Apr 2008 10:27 If the chm is available it is likely there for a reason. I agree that since it is out of print you would be justified in taking a look first. I tend to buy the stuff I use, but I've sometimes tried out software before purchasing (like on another person's machine). When things cost this much you really want to evaluate your purchase decision. However, at the end of the day, we're all software guys and make our living out of people eventually paying us for our work :o) It may be they just offered up the chm as a way of keeping the book around. Some people would rather read online text too. I prefer the hard copy just because it's easier for me to pack it around. Tom "Moschops" <moschops(a)notvalid.com> wrote in message news:nuCdnd-ma6BefIzVRVnyjgA(a)brightview.com... > > After some searching, I found the chm version of the book (2nd Edition) is > available in various corners of the internet. Given that the book itself > is out of print, downloading it is probably illegal but morally justified, > I feel. I've had a leaf through it and it's definitely what I'm looking > for in terms of an MFC textbook. I expect I'll use the first edition as a > ready reference (I really hate reading textbooks on a monitor, and I'm not > printing out a 1162 page document), and check the pdf version I made out > of the chm now and then.
From: Moschops on 25 Apr 2008 10:40 "Ajay Kalra" <ajaykalra(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:cbfe86fc-644f-4574-901b-4c9e0ecf1c81(a)2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com... On Apr 24, 2:36 pm, "Tom Serface" <tom.nos...(a)camaswood.com> wrote: > The debate about top posting or bottom posting pops up every once in a > while > and there seems to be almost religious issues on both sides. > > I "think" the bottom posters like to see all the "stuff" above the answer > so > they can read it all again. > > I "think" that it is annoying to have to scroll through often pages of > stuff > to read the latest in a thread I've been following. When I post (and > trim) > I am responding to a person looking for an answer, not trying to further a > discussion (necessarily). I guess it's just a matter of perspective, but > typically, unless I am really interested, if I open a post and I can't see > the "new stuff" in the screen area I just go on to the next one. > > I'm hoping both can live long and prosperous lives > > :o) > > Tom > > "Gerry Murphy" <gerrymurphy...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:uIIIF5hpIHA.3860(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > Death to self-appointed Net-Cops. > > > "Moschops" <mosch...(a)notvalid.com> wrote in message > >news:Hqmdnd3gbMAczo3VnZ2dnUVZ8q-rnZ2d(a)brightview.com... > > >> (Death to top-posting! My comments are at the end...) > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Gerry Murphy" <gerrymur...(a)comcast.net> > >>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.vc.mfc > >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:44 PM > >>> Subject: Re: Good MFC Book > > >>>> Hi, > > >>>> Sorry for the late reply, I've been away a bit and I'm still catching > >>>> up > >>>> with old messages. > > >>>> I just ordered this from a third party through Amazon back in January > >>>> and > >>>> paid less than $31 with shipping for a 'used' copy indistinguishable > >>>> from > >>>> new. > > >>>> Are you trying to order through Amazon or AmazonUK? I've ordered > >>>> from > >>>> both > >>>> and haven't seen a huge price difference, but perhaps this is an > >>>> exception. > > >>>> Regards, > > >>>> Gerry Murphy Surely this is the true middle ground? 'Chops > >>>> "dave.m.moore...(a)googlemail.com" > >>>> <dave_m_mo...(a)post2me.freeserve.co.uk> > >>>> wrote in message > >>>>news:c5078950-4e7c-4243-ab5e-8eb5901fc023(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > >>>> On 25 Jan, 12:11, "Giovanni Dicanio" <giovanni.dica...(a)invalid.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> "dave.m.moore...(a)googlemail.com" > >>>>> <dave_m_mo...(a)post2me.freeserve.co.uk> > >>>>> ha > >>>>> scritto nel > >>>> messaggionews:88ed1c82-7373-4b4e-b527-b0087ed6b619(a)v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.c > >>>> om... > > >>>>> > I'd like to get a decent MFC book. I have good c++ skills and > >>>>> > considerable experience writing non-MFC applications in Visual > >>>>> > Studio. > >>>>> > Can anyone recommend a good book for writing MFC applications?. > > >>>>> I would recommend Jeff Prosise's "Programming Windows with MFC" > >>>>> (Microsoft > >>>>> Press). > >>>>> The author is very clear in explaining the subject. This book is a > >>>>> quality > >>>>> book, IMHO. > > >>>>> You can find it used at a small price here: > > >>>>>http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Windows-MFC-Jeff-Prosise/dp/1572316950 > > >>>>> Giovanni > > >>>> For some reason, the Prosise book can't be bought from Amazon for > >>>> less > >>>> that �65 in the UK which seems damn extortionate to me. I have been > >>>> recommmended this book before, but I'm not paying �65 for it - it is > >>>> gold plated?. > > >>>> Dave > > >> Having just checked, Amazon UK only has this available from thrid party > >> sellers, who do indeed charge an awful lot for it. However, abebooks is > >> able to provide it for significantly less from overseas sellers. > > >> Here's a question; given that I can buy the previous edition, " > >> Programming Windows 95 with MFC", for about two pounds fifty (that's a > >> little under five dollars for our US readers) including postage, what > >> do > >> I > >> miss out on by getting the previous edition? > > >> I use Petzold for the WinAPI, which is of course marvellous, even if he > >> did write everything in C and I have to stick explicit casts all over > >> the > >> place; if my aim is to properly understand the MFC (by which, of > >> course, > >> I > >> mean ignoring the wizards etc. and actually writing the code myself) is > >> the previous edition still good for that, given that we're on MFC > >> version > >> 9 now? > > >> 'Chops You should give inlining a try as a middle ground. --- Ajay
From: Ajay Kalra on 25 Apr 2008 10:47 Did > Surely this is the true middle ground? You say something? I cant find it. --- Ajay
From: Ajay Kalra on 25 Apr 2008 10:49
On Apr 25, 9:50 am, "Moschops" <mosch...(a)notvalid.com> wrote: > After some searching, I found the chm version of the book (2nd Edition) is > available in various corners of the internet. Given that the book itself is > out of print, downloading it is probably illegal but morally justified, I > feel. I've had a leaf through it and it's definitely what I'm looking for in > terms of an MFC textbook. I expect I'll use the first edition as a ready > reference (I really hate reading textbooks on a monitor, and I'm not > printing out a 1162 page document), and check the pdf version I made out of > the chm now and then. > > Anyone considering forking out the 65 UK pounds on a second hand copy via > Amazon should probably check the chm version first, in case it's not quite > what they're after. > I have found tons of books, even some which havent been published yet, on the web. Its amazing what people are doing. Its all illegal of course. Authors/publishers have taken some down but its a loosing battle for them. Microsoft Press stopped putting the .chm book along with the printed text many years ago, I think for this very reason. --- Ajay |