From: Gerry Murphy on
Hi,

Sorry for the late reply, I've been away a bit and I'm still catching up
with old messages.

I just ordered this from a third party through Amazon back in January and
paid less than $31 with shipping for a 'used' copy indistinguishable from
new.

Are you trying to order through Amazon or AmazonUK? I've ordered from both
and haven't seen a huge price difference, but perhaps this is an exception.

Regards,

Gerry Murphy

"dave.m.moore123(a)googlemail.com" <dave_m_moore(a)post2me.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote in message
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On 25 Jan, 12:11, "Giovanni Dicanio" <giovanni.dica...(a)invalid.com>
wrote:
> "dave.m.moore...(a)googlemail.com" <dave_m_mo...(a)post2me.freeserve.co.uk> ha
> scritto nel
messaggionews:88ed1c82-7373-4b4e-b527-b0087ed6b619(a)v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.c
om...
>
> > I'd like to get a decent MFC book. I have good c++ skills and
> > considerable experience writing non-MFC applications in Visual Studio.
> > Can anyone recommend a good book for writing MFC applications?.
>
> I would recommend Jeff Prosise's "Programming Windows with MFC" (Microsoft
> Press).
> The author is very clear in explaining the subject. This book is a quality
> book, IMHO.
>
> You can find it used at a small price here:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Windows-MFC-Jeff-Prosise/dp/1572316950
>
> Giovanni

For some reason, the Prosise book can't be bought from Amazon for less
that �65 in the UK which seems damn extortionate to me. I have been
recommmended this book before, but I'm not paying �65 for it - it is
gold plated?.

Dave


From: Moschops on

(Death to top-posting! My comments are at the end...)


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gerry Murphy" <gerrymurphy(a)comcast.net>
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.vc.mfc
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:44 PM
> Subject: Re: Good MFC Book
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry for the late reply, I've been away a bit and I'm still catching up
>> with old messages.
>>
>> I just ordered this from a third party through Amazon back in January and
>> paid less than $31 with shipping for a 'used' copy indistinguishable from
>> new.
>>
>> Are you trying to order through Amazon or AmazonUK? I've ordered from
>> both
>> and haven't seen a huge price difference, but perhaps this is an
>> exception.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gerry Murphy
>>
>> "dave.m.moore123(a)googlemail.com" <dave_m_moore(a)post2me.freeserve.co.uk>
>> wrote in message
>> news:c5078950-4e7c-4243-ab5e-8eb5901fc023(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> On 25 Jan, 12:11, "Giovanni Dicanio" <giovanni.dica...(a)invalid.com>
>> wrote:
>>> "dave.m.moore...(a)googlemail.com" <dave_m_mo...(a)post2me.freeserve.co.uk>
>>> ha
>>> scritto nel
>> messaggionews:88ed1c82-7373-4b4e-b527-b0087ed6b619(a)v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.c
>> om...
>>>
>>> > I'd like to get a decent MFC book. I have good c++ skills and
>>> > considerable experience writing non-MFC applications in Visual Studio.
>>> > Can anyone recommend a good book for writing MFC applications?.
>>>
>>> I would recommend Jeff Prosise's "Programming Windows with MFC"
>>> (Microsoft
>>> Press).
>>> The author is very clear in explaining the subject. This book is a
>>> quality
>>> book, IMHO.
>>>
>>> You can find it used at a small price here:
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Windows-MFC-Jeff-Prosise/dp/1572316950
>>>
>>> Giovanni
>>
>> For some reason, the Prosise book can't be bought from Amazon for less
>> that �65 in the UK which seems damn extortionate to me. I have been
>> recommmended this book before, but I'm not paying �65 for it - it is
>> gold plated?.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>

Having just checked, Amazon UK only has this available from thrid party
sellers, who do indeed charge an awful lot for it. However, abebooks is
able to provide it for significantly less from overseas sellers.

Here's a question; given that I can buy the previous edition, "
Programming Windows 95 with MFC", for about two pounds fifty (that's a
little under five dollars for our US readers) including postage, what do I
miss out on by getting the previous edition?

I use Petzold for the WinAPI, which is of course marvellous, even if he
did write everything in C and I have to stick explicit casts all over the
place; if my aim is to properly understand the MFC (by which, of course, I
mean ignoring the wizards etc. and actually writing the code myself) is
the previous edition still good for that, given that we're on MFC version
9 now?

'Chops


From: David Wilkinson on
Moschops wrote:
> Having just checked, Amazon UK only has this available from thrid party
> sellers, who do indeed charge an awful lot for it. However, abebooks is
> able to provide it for significantly less from overseas sellers.
>
> Here's a question; given that I can buy the previous edition, "
> Programming Windows 95 with MFC", for about two pounds fifty (that's a
> little under five dollars for our US readers) including postage, what do I
> miss out on by getting the previous edition?
>
> I use Petzold for the WinAPI, which is of course marvellous, even if he
> did write everything in C and I have to stick explicit casts all over the
> place; if my aim is to properly understand the MFC (by which, of course, I
> mean ignoring the wizards etc. and actually writing the code myself) is
> the previous edition still good for that, given that we're on MFC version

At that price difference, I would go for the older version. That's the one I
have, in any case. MFC has not changed much, though the Visual Studio IDE is a
lot different from when the older book was written.

--
David Wilkinson
Visual C++ MVP
From: Tom Serface on
Wow, that current edition of the book is getting expensive. I think the
previous version would be fine. That's the one I have. As David mentioned,
the examples of the wizards, etc. are outdated, but from what I could see
the content is very similar and that price is great. There are also some
other good MFC books on Amazon in right around the $30-$40 + shipping. You
may also be able to find some of these books locally if you have any large
books stores (in the U.S. we have Borders and Barnes and Noble).

Tom

"Moschops" <moschops(a)notvalid.com> wrote in message
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>
> (Death to top-posting! My comments are at the end...)
>
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gerry Murphy" <gerrymurphy(a)comcast.net>
>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.vc.mfc
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: Good MFC Book
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Sorry for the late reply, I've been away a bit and I'm still catching up
>>> with old messages.
>>>
>>> I just ordered this from a third party through Amazon back in January
>>> and
>>> paid less than $31 with shipping for a 'used' copy indistinguishable
>>> from
>>> new.
>>>
>>> Are you trying to order through Amazon or AmazonUK? I've ordered from
>>> both
>>> and haven't seen a huge price difference, but perhaps this is an
>>> exception.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Gerry Murphy
>>>
>>> "dave.m.moore123(a)googlemail.com" <dave_m_moore(a)post2me.freeserve.co.uk>
>>> wrote in message
>>> news:c5078950-4e7c-4243-ab5e-8eb5901fc023(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> On 25 Jan, 12:11, "Giovanni Dicanio" <giovanni.dica...(a)invalid.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> "dave.m.moore...(a)googlemail.com" <dave_m_mo...(a)post2me.freeserve.co.uk>
>>>> ha
>>>> scritto nel
>>> messaggionews:88ed1c82-7373-4b4e-b527-b0087ed6b619(a)v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.c
>>> om...
>>>>
>>>> > I'd like to get a decent MFC book. I have good c++ skills and
>>>> > considerable experience writing non-MFC applications in Visual
>>>> > Studio.
>>>> > Can anyone recommend a good book for writing MFC applications?.
>>>>
>>>> I would recommend Jeff Prosise's "Programming Windows with MFC"
>>>> (Microsoft
>>>> Press).
>>>> The author is very clear in explaining the subject. This book is a
>>>> quality
>>>> book, IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> You can find it used at a small price here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Windows-MFC-Jeff-Prosise/dp/1572316950
>>>>
>>>> Giovanni
>>>
>>> For some reason, the Prosise book can't be bought from Amazon for less
>>> that �65 in the UK which seems damn extortionate to me. I have been
>>> recommmended this book before, but I'm not paying �65 for it - it is
>>> gold plated?.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>
> Having just checked, Amazon UK only has this available from thrid party
> sellers, who do indeed charge an awful lot for it. However, abebooks is
> able to provide it for significantly less from overseas sellers.
>
> Here's a question; given that I can buy the previous edition, "
> Programming Windows 95 with MFC", for about two pounds fifty (that's a
> little under five dollars for our US readers) including postage, what do I
> miss out on by getting the previous edition?
>
> I use Petzold for the WinAPI, which is of course marvellous, even if he
> did write everything in C and I have to stick explicit casts all over the
> place; if my aim is to properly understand the MFC (by which, of course, I
> mean ignoring the wizards etc. and actually writing the code myself) is
> the previous edition still good for that, given that we're on MFC version
> 9 now?
>
> 'Chops
>
>

From: Gerry Murphy on
Death to self-appointed Net-Cops.

"Moschops" <moschops(a)notvalid.com> wrote in message
news:Hqmdnd3gbMAczo3VnZ2dnUVZ8q-rnZ2d(a)brightview.com...
>
> (Death to top-posting! My comments are at the end...)
>
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gerry Murphy" <gerrymurphy(a)comcast.net>
>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.vc.mfc
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: Good MFC Book
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Sorry for the late reply, I've been away a bit and I'm still catching up
>>> with old messages.
>>>
>>> I just ordered this from a third party through Amazon back in January
>>> and
>>> paid less than $31 with shipping for a 'used' copy indistinguishable
>>> from
>>> new.
>>>
>>> Are you trying to order through Amazon or AmazonUK? I've ordered from
>>> both
>>> and haven't seen a huge price difference, but perhaps this is an
>>> exception.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Gerry Murphy
>>>
>>> "dave.m.moore123(a)googlemail.com" <dave_m_moore(a)post2me.freeserve.co.uk>
>>> wrote in message
>>> news:c5078950-4e7c-4243-ab5e-8eb5901fc023(a)f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> On 25 Jan, 12:11, "Giovanni Dicanio" <giovanni.dica...(a)invalid.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> "dave.m.moore...(a)googlemail.com" <dave_m_mo...(a)post2me.freeserve.co.uk>
>>>> ha
>>>> scritto nel
>>> messaggionews:88ed1c82-7373-4b4e-b527-b0087ed6b619(a)v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.c
>>> om...
>>>>
>>>> > I'd like to get a decent MFC book. I have good c++ skills and
>>>> > considerable experience writing non-MFC applications in Visual
>>>> > Studio.
>>>> > Can anyone recommend a good book for writing MFC applications?.
>>>>
>>>> I would recommend Jeff Prosise's "Programming Windows with MFC"
>>>> (Microsoft
>>>> Press).
>>>> The author is very clear in explaining the subject. This book is a
>>>> quality
>>>> book, IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> You can find it used at a small price here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Windows-MFC-Jeff-Prosise/dp/1572316950
>>>>
>>>> Giovanni
>>>
>>> For some reason, the Prosise book can't be bought from Amazon for less
>>> that �65 in the UK which seems damn extortionate to me. I have been
>>> recommmended this book before, but I'm not paying �65 for it - it is
>>> gold plated?.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>
> Having just checked, Amazon UK only has this available from thrid party
> sellers, who do indeed charge an awful lot for it. However, abebooks is
> able to provide it for significantly less from overseas sellers.
>
> Here's a question; given that I can buy the previous edition, "
> Programming Windows 95 with MFC", for about two pounds fifty (that's a
> little under five dollars for our US readers) including postage, what do I
> miss out on by getting the previous edition?
>
> I use Petzold for the WinAPI, which is of course marvellous, even if he
> did write everything in C and I have to stick explicit casts all over the
> place; if my aim is to properly understand the MFC (by which, of course, I
> mean ignoring the wizards etc. and actually writing the code myself) is
> the previous edition still good for that, given that we're on MFC version
> 9 now?
>
> 'Chops
>
>