From: Cydrome Leader on
In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:
> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Doug White <gwhite(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>> I need to get a new desktop machine, and I'm planning on getting a card
>> to support RAID mirroring in case of a disk crash. My wife has a 6 month
>> old Dell that she bought with some brand of card & 2 drives, but Dell
>> didn't install the card. We discovered that the first thing the card
>> wants to do is reformat your primary drive, which is absurd. We sent it
>> back and got a card from Promise. It took a few tech support calls to
>> get it installed & working properly. Even now, it wants to go to the
>> setup menu every time you boot.
>
>> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good RAID card? I'd like to get
>> one that is reliable, and won't trash the primary (or remaining good)
>> drive if something crashes. I've read too many horror stories of RAID
>> systems that do stuff like reformatting the good drive when a bad drive
>> is replaced & other such nonsense.
>
>> I'll be using this with XP Pro, so Vista isn't an issue.
>
>> Thanks!
>
>> Doug White
>
> Stay away from Adaptec. 3ware has a good reputation, but

can you name a single problem with an adaptec 2420SA?
From: Arno Wagner on
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader <presence(a)mungepanix.com> wrote:
> In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Doug White <gwhite(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>> I need to get a new desktop machine, and I'm planning on getting a card
>>> to support RAID mirroring in case of a disk crash. My wife has a 6 month
>>> old Dell that she bought with some brand of card & 2 drives, but Dell
>>> didn't install the card. We discovered that the first thing the card
>>> wants to do is reformat your primary drive, which is absurd. We sent it
>>> back and got a card from Promise. It took a few tech support calls to
>>> get it installed & working properly. Even now, it wants to go to the
>>> setup menu every time you boot.
>>
>>> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good RAID card? I'd like to get
>>> one that is reliable, and won't trash the primary (or remaining good)
>>> drive if something crashes. I've read too many horror stories of RAID
>>> systems that do stuff like reformatting the good drive when a bad drive
>>> is replaced & other such nonsense.
>>
>>> I'll be using this with XP Pro, so Vista isn't an issue.
>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>>> Doug White
>>
>> Stay away from Adaptec. 3ware has a good reputation, but

> can you name a single problem with an adaptec 2420SA?

I can name you a lot with the 2410SA. Non-functional
commandline-interface that does not allow any automatisation.
Keeps dropping drives. Takes forever to resync. No SMART support
despite claims to the contrary. Incompetent technical support.

Expensive trash.

Arno
From: Cydrome Leader on
In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:
> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader <presence(a)mungepanix.com> wrote:
>> In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Doug White <gwhite(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>>> I need to get a new desktop machine, and I'm planning on getting a card
>>>> to support RAID mirroring in case of a disk crash. My wife has a 6 month
>>>> old Dell that she bought with some brand of card & 2 drives, but Dell
>>>> didn't install the card. We discovered that the first thing the card
>>>> wants to do is reformat your primary drive, which is absurd. We sent it
>>>> back and got a card from Promise. It took a few tech support calls to
>>>> get it installed & working properly. Even now, it wants to go to the
>>>> setup menu every time you boot.
>>>
>>>> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good RAID card? I'd like to get
>>>> one that is reliable, and won't trash the primary (or remaining good)
>>>> drive if something crashes. I've read too many horror stories of RAID
>>>> systems that do stuff like reformatting the good drive when a bad drive
>>>> is replaced & other such nonsense.
>>>
>>>> I'll be using this with XP Pro, so Vista isn't an issue.
>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>> Doug White
>>>
>>> Stay away from Adaptec. 3ware has a good reputation, but
>
>> can you name a single problem with an adaptec 2420SA?
>
> I can name you a lot with the 2410SA. Non-functional
> commandline-interface that does not allow any automatisation.
> Keeps dropping drives. Takes forever to resync. No SMART support
> despite claims to the contrary. Incompetent technical support.
>
> Expensive trash.
>
> Arno

never had a drive drop or resync problems, and i've intentionally broken
arrays by yanking out the sata cables on a live system.

what firmware versions are you running?

From: Arno Wagner on
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader <presence(a)mungepanix.com> wrote:
> In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader <presence(a)mungepanix.com> wrote:
>>> In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>>>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Doug White <gwhite(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>>>> I need to get a new desktop machine, and I'm planning on getting a card
>>>>> to support RAID mirroring in case of a disk crash. My wife has a 6 month
>>>>> old Dell that she bought with some brand of card & 2 drives, but Dell
>>>>> didn't install the card. We discovered that the first thing the card
>>>>> wants to do is reformat your primary drive, which is absurd. We sent it
>>>>> back and got a card from Promise. It took a few tech support calls to
>>>>> get it installed & working properly. Even now, it wants to go to the
>>>>> setup menu every time you boot.
>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good RAID card? I'd like to get
>>>>> one that is reliable, and won't trash the primary (or remaining good)
>>>>> drive if something crashes. I've read too many horror stories of RAID
>>>>> systems that do stuff like reformatting the good drive when a bad drive
>>>>> is replaced & other such nonsense.
>>>>
>>>>> I'll be using this with XP Pro, so Vista isn't an issue.
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>> Doug White
>>>>
>>>> Stay away from Adaptec. 3ware has a good reputation, but
>>
>>> can you name a single problem with an adaptec 2420SA?
>>
>> I can name you a lot with the 2410SA. Non-functional
>> commandline-interface that does not allow any automatisation.
>> Keeps dropping drives. Takes forever to resync. No SMART support
>> despite claims to the contrary. Incompetent technical support.
>>
>> Expensive trash.
>>
>> Arno

> never had a drive drop or resync problems, and i've intentionally broken
> arrays by yanking out the sata cables on a live system.

> what firmware versions are you running?

As this thing was unusable and I had to get the storage running,
it has been disposed of by now, I expect. I bought it 4 years
ago.

Arno
From: Eric Gisin on
"Arno FuckUp" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:664le1F2j98s4U2(a)mid.individual.net...
> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader <presence(a)mungepanix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can name you a lot with the 2410SA. Non-functional
>>> commandline-interface that does not allow any automatisation.
>>> Keeps dropping drives. Takes forever to resync. No SMART support
>>> despite claims to the contrary. Incompetent technical support.
>>>
>>> Expensive trash.
>
>> never had a drive drop or resync problems, and i've intentionally broken
>> arrays by yanking out the sata cables on a live system.
>
>> what firmware versions are you running?
>
> As this thing was unusable and I had to get the storage running,
> it has been disposed of by now, I expect. I bought it 4 years
> ago.
>
So you have no relevant experience, as usual.