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From: Cydrome Leader on 9 Apr 2008 17:41 In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: > In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader <presence(a)mungepanix.com> wrote: >> In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader <presence(a)mungepanix.com> wrote: >>>> In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>>>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Doug White <gwhite(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: >>>>>> I need to get a new desktop machine, and I'm planning on getting a card >>>>>> to support RAID mirroring in case of a disk crash. My wife has a 6 month >>>>>> old Dell that she bought with some brand of card & 2 drives, but Dell >>>>>> didn't install the card. We discovered that the first thing the card >>>>>> wants to do is reformat your primary drive, which is absurd. We sent it >>>>>> back and got a card from Promise. It took a few tech support calls to >>>>>> get it installed & working properly. Even now, it wants to go to the >>>>>> setup menu every time you boot. >>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good RAID card? I'd like to get >>>>>> one that is reliable, and won't trash the primary (or remaining good) >>>>>> drive if something crashes. I've read too many horror stories of RAID >>>>>> systems that do stuff like reformatting the good drive when a bad drive >>>>>> is replaced & other such nonsense. >>>>> >>>>>> I'll be using this with XP Pro, so Vista isn't an issue. >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>>> Doug White >>>>> >>>>> Stay away from Adaptec. 3ware has a good reputation, but >>> >>>> can you name a single problem with an adaptec 2420SA? >>> >>> I can name you a lot with the 2410SA. Non-functional >>> commandline-interface that does not allow any automatisation. >>> Keeps dropping drives. Takes forever to resync. No SMART support >>> despite claims to the contrary. Incompetent technical support. >>> >>> Expensive trash. >>> >>> Arno > >> never had a drive drop or resync problems, and i've intentionally broken >> arrays by yanking out the sata cables on a live system. > >> what firmware versions are you running? > > As this thing was unusable and I had to get the storage running, > it has been disposed of by now, I expect. I bought it 4 years > ago. This card didn't even exist 4 years ago.
From: Franc Zabkar on 9 Apr 2008 18:12 On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 21:41:36 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader <presence(a)MUNGEpanix.com> put finger to keyboard and composed: >In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader <presence(a)mungepanix.com> wrote: >>> In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader <presence(a)mungepanix.com> wrote: >>>>> In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>>>>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Doug White <gwhite(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: >>>> I can name you a lot with the 2410SA. Non-functional >>>> commandline-interface that does not allow any automatisation. >>>> Keeps dropping drives. Takes forever to resync. No SMART support >>>> despite claims to the contrary. Incompetent technical support. >>>> >>>> Expensive trash. >>>> >>>> Arno >> >>> never had a drive drop or resync problems, and i've intentionally broken >>> arrays by yanking out the sata cables on a live system. >> >>> what firmware versions are you running? >> >> As this thing was unusable and I had to get the storage running, >> it has been disposed of by now, I expect. I bought it 4 years >> ago. > >This card didn't even exist 4 years ago. Product Reviews - Hard disks - Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 2410SA: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/50553/adaptec-serial-ata-raid-2410sa.html PC Pro ISSUE: 111 DATE: Jan 04 - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
From: Franc Zabkar on 9 Apr 2008 18:20 On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:12:42 +1000, Franc Zabkar <fzabkar(a)iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed: >On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 21:41:36 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader ><presence(a)MUNGEpanix.com> put finger to keyboard and composed: >>This card didn't even exist 4 years ago. > >Product Reviews - Hard disks - Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 2410SA: >http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/50553/adaptec-serial-ata-raid-2410sa.html > >PC Pro ISSUE: 111 DATE: Jan 04 The YYWW date code on one of the chips suggests the card could have been manufactured as early as week 16 of 2003: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/picture_library/dir_64/it_portal_pic_32044.jpg?2477 - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
From: Doug White on 9 Apr 2008 19:59 Keywords: In article <664aihF2hueb0U3(a)mid.individual.net>, Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cydrome Leader <presence(a)mungepanix.com> > wrote: >> In comp.arch.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Doug White <gwhite(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: >>>> I need to get a new desktop machine, and I'm planning on getting a card >>>> to support RAID mirroring in case of a disk crash. My wife has a 6 month >>>> old Dell that she bought with some brand of card & 2 drives, but Dell >>>> didn't install the card. We discovered that the first thing the card >>>> wants to do is reformat your primary drive, which is absurd. We sent it >>>> back and got a card from Promise. It took a few tech support calls to >>>> get it installed & working properly. Even now, it wants to go to the >>>> setup menu every time you boot. >>> >>>> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good RAID card? I'd like to get >>>> one that is reliable, and won't trash the primary (or remaining good) >>>> drive if something crashes. I've read too many horror stories of RAID >>>> systems that do stuff like reformatting the good drive when a bad drive >>>> is replaced & other such nonsense. >>> >>>> I'll be using this with XP Pro, so Vista isn't an issue. >>> >>>> Thanks! >>> >>>> Doug White >>> >>> Stay away from Adaptec. 3ware has a good reputation, but > >> can you name a single problem with an adaptec 2420SA? > >I can name you a lot with the 2410SA. Non-functional >commandline-interface that does not allow any automatisation. >Keeps dropping drives. Takes forever to resync. No SMART support >despite claims to the contrary. Incompetent technical support. > >Expensive trash. I can't speak for their RAID cards, but the SCSI card in my old desktop was flaky from day one. After numerous tech support equiries, driver & firmware updates, it still bluescreens my computer occasionally. I will never buy another Adaptec product. Doug White
From: Maxim S. Shatskih on 10 Apr 2008 05:22
> I can't speak for their RAID cards, but the SCSI card in my old desktop > was flaky from day one. After numerous tech support equiries, driver & > firmware updates, it still bluescreens my computer occasionally. > > I will never buy another Adaptec product. I run the Adaptec SCSI card (160MB/s, the one with Windows driver "adpu160m") for 8 years or so. No issues. -- Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP StorageCraft Corporation maxim(a)storagecraft.com http://www.storagecraft.com |